Blowing Neighbours smell away

In message , The Medway Handyman writes

You do have a choice

don't smoke in public places

or

get arrested

|Lets use a gun analogy

do you see it as everyone's personal right to carry a firearm?

Reply to
geoff
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So why do you smoke?

Reply to
geoff

Just a minute

you spend how much a week on a habit that seriously damages your health and has no real benefit

who are you calling stupid?

Reply to
geoff

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

'Kin prosit, mate

So, are you an addict or not ?

Reply to
geoff

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

So how does a glass of wine / beer / whatever affect others in close proximity in the same way that smoke does?

Well, absolutely

I'm not that fussed about the smoke - any damage is already done

good fun to wind up though

Reply to
geoff

The cigarette doesn't take 20 minutes to smoke - but the absence from work could be that long:

Leave desk, go to toilet, wait for lift, use lift (which stops at all floors), go outside, look in bag or pocket for cigarettes, same with lighter/matches, smoke cigarette, go back indoors (having first found security pass in pocket/bag, wait for lift, use lift, go to toilet, return to desk. That's an easy 20 minutes.

Reply to
charles

You forgot continuing to chat with colleague who came out later until he/she finishes their cigarette.

Reply to
Hugh - Was Invisible

S/he also forget to wash hands.

Reply to
Elmo

"Judith" ranted:

You are Mrs Medway Handyman and I claim my £5.

Or maybe you just use the same scriptwriter.

Reply to
Interloper

I'd suggest you do some research before writing such crap. Cocaine does an incredible amount of damage to the body and mind. As can alcohol.

The safest of all the common drugs as regards physical damage is heroin.

But I'm not advocating using it or any other drug.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Do you mean *in* a big river in Africa?

Reply to
Tim Streater

It's a different drug and effects others in a different way. Never been in a restaurant next to a table full of rowdies?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

It's not PC to mention these days, due to some government initiative to bear down on drinking, but within the last decade two /major/ studies showed the same thing.

One report was mentioned in the newspapers, and I can't recall the details now. The other was a study of 10,000 civil servants over a 15 year period. I knew two people that were part of the study. Every year they were given a full medical, including lifestyle survey, diet and exercise survey, blood tests, ECGs, the whole nine yards. The level of detail meant that effects could be separated from each other.

The surveys showed the following, with regard to 'life outcomes':

- not drinking at all was the worst

- drinking between 21 and 42 units a week gave the best[1]

- drinking over 42 units was in between in terms of outcomes.

[1] this level of drinker was found to live longer than the other groups, suffer fewer illnesses, and die from a more limited range of conditions.

The 21-unit 'safe level' was a number plucked out of the air by a government-appointed committee, and based on nothing evidential at all. Since the two surveys contradicted this, they have seemingly disappeared without trace.

Reply to
Terry Fields

It seems a bit unfair to count "go[ing] to toilet", since all employees do that anyway; if anything, combining the toilet & smoking breaks is probably a bit more efficient than making separate trips. ;-)

Anyway, the OP didn't ask how to make his neighbours stop smoking, or even stop smoking in their garden --- just how to keep the smoke/smell away from him & his family in their own garden.

Reply to
Adam Funk

An extremely libertarian perspective might be that employers should be free to set whatever smoking/non-smoking policies they want, and prospective employees can accept them or go elsewhere; *some* libertarians seriously argue against anti-discrimination laws on the grounds that, in the long term at least, racist employers will be less successful than non-racist ones (because they are drawing employees from a smaller pool selected without regard to competence). ("In the long run we are all dead." -- J M Keynes)

Reply to
Adam Funk

Thank you for mentioning the latter. Gillian McKeith is merely one example of what has become a regrettably common phenomenon, but David Icke does appear to have taken the Velikovsky, von Däniken and Hubbard approaches to a new, er, dimension!

The trolls on this thread are far less amusing.

Regards, A loyal subject of Her Reptilian Majesty.

Reply to
nmm1

So the barmaid is going to wear a face mask with filters and possibly an air supply? And the smokers are going to pay more for their drinks to pay for this?

There are easier solutions, like giving up the addiction.

Reply to
dennis

If you've not read it, you're "peddling assumptions" and you should read it for the "real facts". Or for the insight into delusion or maybe just the lulz.

Reply to
mike

You can repeat that as many times as you like, it just proves that you don't have a clue. At least when you were claiming it hadn't kill it was impossible to prove but to claim anyone just shows you don't understand epidemiology. You could have claimed smoking never killed and it would have been hard to disprove but epidemiology shows that smoking does kill people, the same as it shows secondary smoking does. Now go and cut someone's grass and stop making stupid statements.

Reply to
dennis

Why would a barmaid ever have to enter the dedicated smoking area?

Perhaps you've not noticed the numbers of pubs that have close since the smoking ban? And of those that haven't, the numbers who have provided heated spaces outside for smokers? One such did so by removing the kid's play area...

Do get a life, Dennis.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

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