I would agree. If someone who did not speak English and lived here, I
would advise them to learn English as it would benefit them. I would not
want to force them to do so, but I do believe it would be a good idea for
them to decide to do so.
I also agree they should be here legally. However I believe that the
problem is caused primarily by the US immigration laws.
I can understand your pride in the flag, after all I can comment
publicly about my views on this subject in the US, something I would not be
able to do everywhere, but why pride in not having any Spanish signs?
Would you or your children be interested in picking vegetables for four or
five bucks an hour? How about cleaning hotel rooms, or washing dishes in
restaurant kitchens for minimum wage (if you're lucky)?
That's not the point! If we do what some would like, and eliminate or
severely curtail the flow of "illegals" into this country, how do you think
we'd replace the labor that they're willing to do? Or, to put it another
way, your 16 year old kid says "Dad, I just got a job. I'll be bent over in
the sun for 10 hours a day, swinging a very sharp knife at brocolli stems
right near my ankles. The crops are sprayed with some sort of chemical a few
days before they're picked, but the guy at the interview said the stuff was
safe to touch. It's four bucks an hour".
You OK with this scenario?
This is BS. Four things would happen. For some of the jobs, Americans
would fill them at the same wage. For others, Americans would fill them
for more money (and the costs of those would go up). Some would be to a
greater or lesser degree mechanized and the rest would disappear.
Probably the latter would be mechanized.
Mechanized: No. Some crops cannot be harvested by machines. If they could,
John Deere would already have machines to do it, and farmers would be
delighted to own them.
As far as costs rising, you've got that right. I suspect it would be
disastrous, especially for people who already have a hard time affording
decent food. How about $5.00 a pound for lettuce, instead of the usual $1.00
to $3.00? We're already in for a big surprise in the grocery business if oil
keeps rising in price. Three years ago, freight rates were in the range of
$1.25 to $1.50 per mile. Now, they're $1.75 to $2.75, depending on direction
of travel and the availability of backhauls.
Not if there are methods to do so that are cheaper/more available.
There is no incentive to look precisely because the other way is
available. Illegal immigration that is studiously ignored by government
essentially is a subsidy to farmers.
It is Econ 101.
How about "Dogs and cats. Living together!" So it is okay if
the illegal immigrants work at slave labor in areas that you suggested
in your last post are chemically dangerous for artificially low wages so
you can save a couple cents on lettuce.
Possible for some crops, but the fact remains that there *are* some which
are simply too delicate to be managed with machinery.
I didn't say it was OK - I said it's a fact of life at the moment. If
Mexicans didn't think this work was better than what's available to them at
home, they wouldn't come here. As far as chemicals, that's a whole different
topic we shouldn't get any deeper into. It's enough to say that the problem
exists because people are paid to let it exist, and it would be a problem
regardless of who was doing the vegetable picking.
That bit about "required" is ridiculous. Do you think that if we suddenly
had a huge shortage of farm laborers, people would suddenly be prepared to
do without half the produce they're accustomed to eating?
But, I'll humor you anyway and give you a bit of an education, since you're
obviously not a gardener. There's a large category of plants which continue
producing after the first harvest. Tomatoes, cucumbers and summer squash are
three examples. And, the parts we harvest are tender and can't be beat up by
a machine. If you need to know more about this, go to Google, and search for
the words "cooperative extension" along with the name of your state. Find a
phone number and call them.
"required" was not ridiculous and there will not be a
sudden huge shortage of farm laborers. The crops that
require hand labor would cost me more and my county
hospital tax should go down. (do taxes ever go down?)
And accustomed does not equal required.
My garden does require more hand labor than the acres
of corn, cotton and grain grown within an hours drive.
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