I see your link has you showing the new style of Bessey's. Do you have
any of the old style to compare them to? Have you seen any great
benefit to the new style over the old ones? I've got the old style and
haven't bought any new ones.
Yes, I've seen the adverts, but I'd rather hear a practical opinion
from a real user.
On 10/10/2013 3:16 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I have used the old style Besseys, I have always preferred my Jorgensen
Cabinet Masters. My latest purchases have been the Revo Bessey's.
Currently in the K-body style clamps I have 10 Cabinet Masters with 10+
years of use, 7 Bessey clamps with about 4 years use, and 2 Jet clamps
with about 8 years use.
When the smoke clears I still prefer the Cabinet Masters for my money.
The new Besseys IMHO are smoother functioning than the older style, not
as crotchety. But still not as easy to use as the Cabinet Masters. The
Bessey clamps are now comparable to the Cabinet Masters in terms of the
size of the clamping surface. I am careful not to let glue drip on the
bars as I have heard that Bessey K bodies don't work well or as smoothly
with a contaminated bar. This for me has never been an issue with the
Cabinet Masters and I got a lot of glue on the bars before I learned
that it could be a issue with the Bessey clamps. The Bessey clamps are
not as tough as the Cabinet Masters. I don't like to admit this but I
on several occasions have dropped my clamps on a concrete floor.
Plastic chips break off of the Bessey clamps, I have not noticed any
thing damaged on the Cabinet Master housings. The moveable foot on the
Cabinet Masters is terrific if you are using clamps that are longer than
your work surface. The feet on the Bessey's are not adjustable and
useless on a smaller work surface.
The Jets look good on paper. In real use, by comparison to the Cabinet
Masters and the Besseys, are considerably more difficult to get a good
feel for how tight you are clamping. The clamp screw mechanism is
simply not as smooth as the other two brand clamps. And almost with out
fail the Jet clamps leave indentations on the stock, no they are not
being over tightened compared to the other two brands of clamps, the
plastic clamping surface is harder.
My experience is that the Cabinet Masters are built to take abuse and
still perform as expected. The Besseys need to be a bit pampered, the
Jets, for me, were a purchasing mistake, they are my last go to clamp in
Thanks for the review. The main reason I asked is that I was
considering the purchase of some new bar clamps. The new Bessey's put
me off for some reason and I was looking for an excuse to sway me one
way or another. You've done that. Lee Valley Tools has discontinued
offering the Cabinet Masters for some reason, so I guess I'll have to
find them somewhere else.
On 10/11/2013 4:44 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Actually if you look at the picture that I posted again the front Bessy
has a chipped out spot on the right side plastic.
Anyway, you can some times find deals on the Cabinet Masters direct,
I have also deals, on occasion, on Amazon for sets of 4 clamps.
One last note. Although it is unlikely that you will find the original
older Cabinet Master clamps you should be aware that the internal metal
parts on the screw handle end were made out of aluminum. Almost with
out fail all of these have failed, the aluminum broke. BUT not to worry
Jorgensen through the Adjustable Clamp Company cheerfully replaced the
handle parts of the clamps immediately. They ship you the replacement
newer design, iron, screw handle assemblies for free. Typically the old
style aluminum ones were silver and the newer iron ones are painted black.
On 10/11/2013 4:44 AM, email@example.com wrote:
See my post about the Groz clamp deal at Woodcraft. A good cheap way to
augment your existing K-body collection without switching to a completely new
style of clamp. I have a bunch of the older K-body clamps, and these are
That said, I agree with what Leon said. I don't own any Cabinet Masters, but I
have inspected them closely and I do like how they use a smooth bar design
rather than the serrated bars used by all other manufacturers. It is easy to
get glue build-up on your bar clamps, and it's a pain in the ass to remove it
from those serrated bars. The Cabinet Masters use very smooth chrome plated
bars, and it seems like glue build-up would come right off.
I also agree with Leon's assessment of the Jet clamps. I have four, and I
don't like 'em. The ONLY thing I like about those clamps is the "trigger" that
keeps the jaws from sliding around on the bar unless it's released. This can
actually be very handy in those times when you "only" have two hands.
I also have some of newer Bessey K-Body REVO clamps, and these are my favorite
(keeping in mind that I don't have any Cabinet Masters to compare them to). As
Leon said, they are much smoother than the older K-Bodies, with a larger
clamping surface (which can actually be a downside in some circumstances; I
have a bunch of lamination forms that would have to be modified to accommodate
the larger heads on the REVOs). The rubber (instead of wood) handles are also
MUCH easier to grip, and that combined with what appears to be better "gearing"
on the leadscrew threads allows for much more clamping force, and much easier
release when it comes time to remove the clamping pressure. I really like
these clamps, but DAMN are they expensive!
ALSO (again), I have a set of Bessey K-Body REVO Juniors, which are pretty
handy for light-duty stuff. The head size is about the same as the old Bessey
K-Bodies, but the bar is lighter-duty, and the leadscrew is much smaller so you
have less tightening force. They also have rather small wooden (instead of
rubber) handles which I don't much like, and for some reason the jaws are
designed to be not quite parallel until you apply some considerable clamping
force. It's like they recognized that the clamps have some flex due to the
light-duty bar, so they built some "acquired" parallelism into the design of
the heads. Still, pretty handy little clamps for some things, and not nearly
as expensive as their big brothers.
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
Are you referring to the Groz Parallel Clamp Set? Part of the problem
is that Woodcraft is in the US. I live in Canada. Between shipping,
exchange and duties, I'd get dinged a significant amount. Still, it's
something to consider.
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