I'm not sure; as not sugar producer I don't know if it also in these
agreements; I'd have to look. Most direct interest to us is the feed
grains and other beef/pork-related products (not necessarily the animals
or meat but the ancillary products associated w/ production of same).
As a small-grains producer we certainly don't cotton to the stranglehold
some southern states have on certain commodities in crafting farm
legislation, sugar being only one... :)
I make no pretense there's complete consistency throughout the myriad
legislative and regulatory rules regarding ag imports/exports :) but I
would submit that is true in any area one would care to look at.
The question was raised by OP of what is the US able to export and ag
products is one area was the answer. I simply pointed out that in
aiding US balance of payments the current administration's delay in
ratifying already negotiated (in bilateral talks) trade agreements isn't
helping even though these are, in the overall scheme of things, quite
small markets under discussion.
Some of those markets would include lard and sugar. I would be
surprised if there was any left over for export. (That's based on what
I see waddling through the Michigan shopping malls these days.)
I keed!, I keed!!
No argument from a wheat/milo grower, there...
If growin' cane in LA, perhaps my viewpoint might be different??? :)
Sugar, peanuts, tobacco are on the list of commodities w/ very powerful
legislators and have been for over 50 years now. Not likely to change
anytime soon, particularly when the current administration is so
indifferent to agriculture in general and downright hostile it appears
to production ag interests if what we hear is what is really intended.
And while there's much to dislike, there is _no_ congress-critter
seriously interested in the ag sector in the major farm states that will
even consider reopening the '08 ag bill given what the current Congress
would likely do...it'll be battle enough to fight off the worst of the
effects of the additional mandates/initiatives already on the way. :(
If'en the Post thinks food prices are too high now, let 'em wait 'til
the effects of C tax and the like hit fertilizer and fuel prices just
There may be an element of truth here, however the real damage to our
economy has been the mindset that places "maximisation of shareholder
value" above actually making the damn buggy whips.
Just like the promise of success lifting the drug dealer out of his
mean streets -- remember him in that earlier example? -- everybody
piled into the stock market, because it was going to make all of us
Didn't happen that way, did it? I'm still working, at least for the
rest of this week. Seems I've been semi-retired most of this decade...
Scrooge? Who cares. Stupid, inappropriate, maybe.
This is supposed to be a Woodworking List, no?
I'll bet that there is an Economics 101 list or similar. Maybe a Glenn
Beck / Fox News list where you might commune with like-minded
individuals who have the interest and time for such diatribes.
The very act of typing "OT" in your subject line should clue you in to
get out of this list and sign in to some political blog.
I read this thinking it had some relationship to the topic - maybe a
comment on a new tool you found Friday (like that little device that
turns an old 5G paint bucket into a small shop vac that HD offered).
And to the rest of you who replied to this post and, thus, drove it to
the top of the "most active" list that is sent out each day, thanks a
lot. Better you, too, should hold your water and ignore OT posts - or
at least reply to the sender and not to the group.
Talk to you wife about shopping, talk to the TV, talk to the wall, but
leave us out of it - please.
ListServes were the predecessors of newsgroups. When you think about how a
newsgroup works, the term "list" doesn't seem totally unfitting... Both
have trolls and can be a valuable sources of information. There are plenty
of details on both at wikipedia.com. --Bill
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:40:23 -0500, the infamous "Bill"
Remember Spock's famous quote?
"Could you please continue your petty bickering? I find it most
Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.
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