OT: Black Friday

That's nonsense. The US had BSE before Canada but the USDA was successfully hiding it. If you think about how cattle moved in BOTH directions over the before the BSE crisis broke, you'll recognize that to say it came from Canada is, pardon the expression, bullshit.

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Dave Balderstone
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I don't believe there's a shred of evidence that supports that position other than the desire on the northern side of the border mitigate responsibility.

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dpb

On 11/28/2009 6:01 AM Jay Pique spake thus:

Walmart is to employment opportunity as San Quentin is to educational advancement.

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David Nebenzahl

On 11/28/2009 12:39 AM Greg G. spake thus:

Hey, don't get sore; I think you've got the symptoms pretty much nailed. It's your analysis that's a little bit off.

Yes, we have (by whatever means and for whatever reason) ceded our once economic dominance of the world to others, primarily the Chinese and India. Our practice of offshoring is at least partly to blame. Part of it may have been economically inevitable--the ironclad rule that greedy capitalists always seek the cheapest labor, and if "they" are "willing" to work for 1/10 of our wages, production will relocate there. (Of course, this pretty much glosses over how "willing" they are, how attempts to unionize are grounds for being killed, little or no workplace safety rules, little or no basic human rights, etc., etc.)

Plus, not all that we get from them (China, at least) is junk. The quality is increasing all the time. And why not? After all, these are the folks who were making great technological advances while our (European) forbears were shivering in caves.

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David Nebenzahl

Mitigating responsibility.. something the US never does?

Reply to
Robatoy

I accept that you don't believe it.

I know that our reporters heard it from USDA officials, but in off-the-record conversations.

Let's get back to talking about woodworking...

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Dave Balderstone

Dave Balderstone wrote: ...

What I know is US was certified BSE-free prior to the WA cow whose origin was BC.

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dpb

As you know, Chicago doesn't allow Walmarts. About four years ago, Walmart opened a store across the street from Chicago in a neighboring city of Evergreen Park. The company advertised for 350-400 employees.

They got 25,000 job applications.

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tens of thousands of folks thing that Walmart is a great job opportunity.

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HeyBub

The United States accounts for about one-quarter of the world's GDP. That number shows no signs of diminishing. China's GDP is growing, true, but that of the US is growing faster. Economic activity is not, in spite of what many liberals think, a zero-sum game.

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HeyBub

Evidently, tens of thousands of folks think the drug trade is a great job opportunity. Are you going to be as quick to jump on that bandwagon?

Ed

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Ed Edelenbos

Beats the Hell out of starvation I guess.

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J. Clarke

That doesn't contradict anything I've said.

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Dave Balderstone

With an attitude like that it's no wonder we have generations of freeloaders.

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krw

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:01:56 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jay Pique scrawled the following:

Like it or not, -most- Wally World employees are quite happy. If you don't believe me, walk up to any employee and ask "Are you happy working here?" Let us know what you come up with. Be fair, though. Don't start by saying "Your manager makes 10x times more money than you. Is that OK?" Ask around town, too, so you get a good feel for it, then let us know.

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Larry Jaques

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:12:43 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone scrawled the following:

Go for it, Baldy!

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Larry Jaques

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:16:34 -0600, the infamous dpb scrawled the following:

Oops! You attributed text to me which wasn't mine.

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Reply to
Larry Jaques

No they don't. According to "Freakonomics," most drug dealers live with their mothers because they can't afford a place of their own.

The authors of the book theorize that, for drug dealers, it's the possible, though small, probability of a HUGE payoff if they rise high enough in the ranks (just like many of their contemporaries think the might have a shot at the NBA), that entices many into the drug trade.

Personally I think it's the hours that makes the job attractive to so many. That, and standing in the community.

Reply to
HeyBub

The correct answer is "YESH!"

Reply to
Dave Balderstone

Nor does anything you've said have any factual corroborating evidence behind it you've pointed to other than hearsay.

Given the massive amount of testing done after the event and the lack of positive findings, there's no evidence to support that assertion of there being or had been a problem in US herds outside the above connections.

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dpb

Robatoy wrote: ...

I think you misunderstand...of _course_ and I expect them to; that's their job and they're failing miserably if they don't immediately react to do same.

Nothing the Canadians did during and following the initial discovery was not in what they saw as their best interests--as, for the most, part I think the US reaction was handled about as well as it could have been for damage control by USDA and various other organizations. It's just that some of those actions/statements made weren't necessarily conducive in aiding the US in mitigating the magnitude of the ensuing economic impact. And, of course, that's not particularly surprising; through it all they were continuing to figure out what they could/should do to preserve their own markets and potentially grow them as a side benefit. IOW, "let no crisis go to waste".

Each party has to look out primarily for the interests of their constituents while trying to find mutually-beneficial positions. That's what makes trade negotiations such contentious and difficult things and why there's disagreement on "who's right/who's wrong" depending on the perceived needs and objectives of each side.

OTOH, factual information that can be verified is something else and the other participant in this conversation doesn't seem to have any other than "off-the-record" supposed true confessions of some official.

Given the state of keeping secrets in DC, if such a statement had been made to a news source in Canada by any one w/ actual factual basis for it, it goes beyond credible that the same or another like-minded insider would be able to refrain from making the same or similar revelation/accusation to the Washington Post or one of the other ag-bashing media outlets in the States and all h--- would've broken over it.

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dpb

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