The key word is unskilled. If an employee doesn't like the low pay, then he
or she should learn a trade or go to night school. If you ask anyone that
has worked in retail for more than a year, Walmart is not the only one to
offer very poor health insurance. However the rest of our benefits were
pretty decent when I worked at the Crapsman house.
I'm not a big fan of RTA furniture, but it does serve its purpose in certain
situations. Kids rooms is a big one. That way I don't keep thinking of how
much time I have in making something to have it trashed in a few months.
On the benefits issue, which would you prefer, no benefits or poverty
level wages? Wait! Wal-Mart provides both! :-)
On another note, I love waking through stores looking at furniture. It
can be rewarding or condemning. Sometimes I'm checking to see if I can
beat craftsmanship (usually not too hard in discount stores) or whether
I can build better for less. Other times I study their construction
techniques, joinery, finish, etc. Same with catalogues. I think one
of the great rewards with woodworking is that you find, after practice,
you can build the same quality or better (sometimes exponentially
better) than what you can buy and that it came from your own hands. If
there's anything good for America I really think it is the spirit of
woodworking. Wait, I'm getting verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves. .
. . I'll give you a new topic. The Italian Neo Realist Movement in
film was neither Italian nor neo nor particuarly a movement. Discuss!
Here's at least one on-topic response to your observation:
The Wal-Mart where I shop has a small collection of furniture, usually low
cost and assemble-it-yourself type. Most of it is adequate quality but as
you found out, there are exceptions. I bought a good quality hi-fi shelf
unit for $79, whereas the identical unit was selling at Best Buy for $250.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:09:21 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I feel that's a poor way of looking at things, Pete. Go out and find
the worst presentation of things so you can feel better about your own
shortcomings? I'd hate to think what will happen if you are exposed to
I try to look the other direction.
When I was younger I spent many hours at the library. I was not
checking out books but studying the woodwork. My hometown had a
library with elaborate oak molding that ran into shelving, readng
desks, window trim and a small set of stairs. I was in awe of the
carpenter who did the work. I worked so hard to make my work measure
Even when carpenters look at my work and compliment, I am not
satisfied because I know where the flaws are - and they are always
there if perfection is our only standard.
Agree, I think that attitude is the mark of the better carpenter. At times
when I've received compliments on some of the things I've made, I always
known there's some imperfection somewhere and constantly strive not to
repeat that type of imperfection again. If we're not always improving
ourselves, then we're either stagnant or getting worse.
I have to laugh. This thread has taken on a whole new dimension. I
was merely making an observation about something I saw at a time when
I was thinking about my own work. Perhaps I should have said 'go
wandering though furniture stores'.
When I can see all the goofs in my work that I don't charge money for
(the work not the goofs) and then see the crap being sold for money, I
begin to rethink how I see my work. This is not an excuse to stagnate
nor feel that my mistakes are OK but a wake up to stop being so hard
on myself. My work will always improve and I try to avoid making the
same mistakes twice, but only when I remember what the original
problem was. I only need to put out good work not perfection.
As for my shortcomings, I have plenty just like you and everone else.
I don't need you or anyone else to point them out to me because that's
my job and I can do that much better than you. And what the hell does
any of this have to do with prison?
These days I rarely go through life thinking I can do things as good
or better as another man's work. This particular chest was an
SWMBO used to remind me as we paid for good lumber and fittings that almost
anything I made was going to be better than store-bought. True way back,
and hasn't changed.
OTOH, all the Wally World bashers need to stop and think. Who shops at the
store? Poor people? Aren't we all about helping the poor? Why force them
to shop elsewhere or do without.
I find that I am my own worst critic.
I see plenty of stuff and wonder how the he** can they sell that for some
gosh awful price tag. I see that stuff and agree with the wifey ... mine is
much higher quality and I usually just give the stuff away.
I'm in for the hobby not the dollars. The satisfactions are in the completed
process and watching the smile come on a face.
I think that is as it should be. I only compare my work to superior
work - work that impresses me. There's enough satisfaction in doing
the work itself that I don't need validation comparing my work to
inferior work. Don't get me wrong - I have no problem bitching about
inferior work and inflated price tags on inferior work.
Exactly. I have a friend who is a manager for Pier One in Washington
and she says they're having a heck of a time because most people are
saying screw it, they can buy the same quality furniture at 1/2 the
price at Walmart and other discounters, why bother going to Pier One?
I'm going to look up that book. I totally agree that big-box stores
are quite easy to compete against if you aren't competing on price
alone, and have many friends who have been very successful in doing
I've found that I often learn as much or more from the debunking than
an original work.
Occasionally, Usenet discussions can be similar. Somebody posts
something, the resulting back-and-forth discussion is where I pick up
the real knowledge.
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