Brand new out of the store Briggs 450 E 125 CC vertical shaft
engine. I added oil out of the store supplied jug and fuel. It's the
right amount of oil according to the manual. I can't pull the rope hard
enough to make the engine turn.
I can turn the engine by pulling on the blade. There seems to be
on the bottom end of the engine by the blade. I took the oil fill
plug out. No difference.
Taking the spark plug out didn't change much.
And yes, I did disconnect the plug wire before pulling on the blade.
Two mowers, same results.
“He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes; he who does not
ask a question remains a fool forever” Chinese proverb.
Could have gone to a dealer that puts the oil in and then shows you how
to run everything. But that would have cost $20 more.
The first "dead" mower is now going back to the factory and both the
selling store and the manufacturer incur a needless expense.
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 9:45:44 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Actually that expense winds up with you and I. The prices of mowers
have to cover the needless returns. It probably won't go back to the
factory though, the retailer will check it out, mark it down a bit as
an open box.
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 10:41:51 AM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
You can't possibly be that dumb. Any costs that the supplier has, whether
it's the cost of materials, labor, fuel, rent, taxes, just gets passed
on in the price of the goods that the consumer winds up paying.
Corporations pay taxes on reported income - but have ways of reducing
that significantly for tax purposes - and with Walmart all rules of
retailing go out the window. The supplier takes ALL the risks -
Walmart takes none - and the expense gets passed on to the supplier's
OTHER costomers because they can't recoup it from Walmart. Eventually
the consumer pays - but not if they only by from Walmart.
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 11:07:25 AM UTC-4, bob_villain wrote:
His point is that the supplier can not operate at a loss for any significant period. Therefor they will price items to accommodate what ever walmart forces them to eat. At the end of the day you the consumer pay for mistakes on both sides on the coin.
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:26:35 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org
Walmart sets the price - you accept it and you are a supplier. You
don't, you aren't. If you got 1.93 for something this year, you'll get
$1.83 next year.If not they will find someone in india or vietnam to
make it for $1.63 (including shipping)
On 6/21/2016 5:08 PM, email@example.com wrote:
Someone told me once of a supplier who refused a
Walmart contract. It was massively huge contract
for millions of items. However, WM priced the bid
so low that the company would have lost money if
they had accepted.
You can say no, but people don't and get in trouble.
Google Vlasic pickle & walmart and Snapper mower & walmart. One said
no, the other did not.
Our company used to make parts for a major appliance company. They came
to us and demanded lower price and rebate on pat business. We said no
and lost it to a competitor. They filed chapter 11 a year later.
I worked for a guy that sold to Wal Mart. Wal Mart told him to meet a
certain price point or they would give their business to China. They
didn't give a damn about his patents.
The stories he told about Wal Mart.
He eventually sold his company to a German company.
I won't buy batteries or anything else from Wal Mart
that I need quality on as I know the manufacturers were
so chiseled down that what gets shipped are all the
seconds and "almost" rejected parts.
Had a customer buy a computer from Wal Mart at a really
good price. Tried to upgrade it from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit
OS and found out why it was so cheap. The Motherboard
had a defect on it such that it could only support a 32 bit
OS, even though it was spec'ed to support 64 bit. She orders
customer computer from me ever since. She likes having
someone to call that speaks English and is nice to her.
Plus my stuff just works and doesn't crap out every year.
Cost of ownership can kill you.
As Stromin' dad said. A poor man can't afford a cheap shirt.
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:39:50 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Almost killed Vlasic Pickles.
Almost killed RedWing shoes.
Several other companies have said getting the walmart contract was the
beginning of the end.
One of my customers supplies Walmart - and they say they have to
really be carefull not to" buckle in" (pun intended - they sell belts
- -) and end up loosing money on every product they sell
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