I was at Walmart the other day getting a tire repaired. As I wandered
around the store, I came up the 'furniture' aisle and saw an
unfinished spruce/pine chest. It was crudely made of rough milled
(read construction wood) and warped 1x4, rough cut ends, badly fitted
and nailed together with a pallet nail gun. Only 49$. This thing
makes Ikea knock down furniture look like heirloom craftmanship.
Puts a whole new perspective on things. The next time I beat myself
up for the flaws I see in my finished stuff I'll go wandering through
I got to get out more.
It's my understanding that the benefits are so expensive that the low
wage workers can't afford them (only management can).. So the
cashier/stockers can't afford benefits.
Whether that's screwing them or not is a matter of perspective, I
I boycott Walmart (for various reasons), but I don't want to get in an
argument about them here... I know there's people here that buy
Sure they are. If you get employee health insurance at work for, say $50 a
month, yet the insurance company is charging the employer $300 a month for
it, what do you call the $250 picked up by the company?
Or even if the company is only paying $50 and the employee is paying $250,
it's still a benefit. Heck, the employer could not pay anything and it could
still be a benefit if the employer size allows the employees to get
I never rant but there is always the exception.
I love Walmart when I need to by cheap shit. They have the best. I
think there is a union crowd that hates Walmart and they are aligned
with the same crowd that thinks a minimum wage job should pay enough to
raise a family. Walmart has cheap jobs for unskilled people. Whats so
bad about that. I agree we need a minimum wage but some concept that
says every job should provide full benefits and enough money to live on
is just socialism and we decided not to go that route a few hundered
years ago. Get used to it.
Again, nobody makes them work there. Nobody "forces" them to work off the
clock (though I'm sure that is an isolated instance... no company has
As Sonoma said, Walmart provides jobs, it's up to the job marketplace to
determine how well those jobs pay. When the demand goes up for that valuable
unskilled labor, I am sure we will see a raise in pay.
Walmart has also been busted numerous times for paying below minimum
wage to illegal aliens.
They've also cost a lot of Americans jobs by
encouraging/helping/forcing manufacturers to move overseas.
State Governments have to pay a lot of money in health care benefits to
those walmart workers that don't have insurance.. that's your and my
Sure, nobody forces anyone to work at Walmart, but Walmart is certainly
not a model coorporate citizen. In the end, I'm not sure it's helped
America (other than the Waltons) that Walmart has grown so big.
Some of Walmart's practices are just plain sketchy. It's not good
business, and it's certainly not what people would consider "the
"One of the class representatives in the New York lawsuit, Maria Gamble
of Suffolk County, New York, claims that while she worked at Wal-Mart
as a customer service manager, Wal-Mart supervisors locked her in the
store with her co-employees after the store closed when all employees
were "off-the-clock." Ms. Gamble described her experiences at Wal-Mart:
"When I worked at Wal-Mart, we were routinely expected to work at
times when we were not paid. The worst part of this was we were
locked-in to the store at night. Every week, I worked at least one
shift that went from 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. or 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. When the
store closed at the end of my shift, the manager or the person closing
the store would lock the exterior doors but the hourly employees like
me would have to remain in the store and restock merchandise and count
out the cash registers, even though we had already clocked off and were
not getting paid. The tasks we had to do after the store closed always
took at least an hour-and-a-half, and often two hours. The doors
weren't unlocked until the work was completed. There were other ways in
which I wasn't paid for time I was working, as well, such as mandatory
attendance at unpaid meetings, and times I had to work through lunch
Walmart keeps pushing everything down. Sounds great, right? What's
not to like about low low prices? It's how they're pushing down and
what gets squeezed out.
I had to laugh at the comments about no one holding a gun to Walmart
employees' heads. Walmart comes in and a bunch of businesses go out.
Due to the economies of scale, which dictates everything that Walmart
does, they don't need as many employees as the other stores would have
required. Those out of work people are now looking for jobs to support
their families and the jobs that are available in the area are Walmart
jobs paying substantially lower wages. Ask yourself the question, what
would you do if you were on one of the lower rungs of the economic
ladder and needed to put food on the table. You'd do about anything -
even work for Walmart.
You're kidding yourself if you think that Walmart's practices only
affect the employees. If you want to contrast their employment
practices with another, similar warehouse store, check out Costco.
Entirely different corporate culture, far better employment practices
and still damn profitable. That's the American way.
Since you are not an American, it doesn't surprise me that you don't know
jack about the American way.
Capitalism is the American way, and Wal-mart is a shining example of that.
The good part about the American way is that others have the opportunity to
compete with Wal-Mart, if no one is currently capable of doing that, that
isn't Wal-mart's fault.
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