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[Jim GM4 DHJ ...]

[alan_m]

Ah, the isle to dump all that food you put in your basket and then half way through your shop you decide that you no longer want it.

[GB]

Why not just put ordinary goods on the shelf for Coeliacs? Much fun to be had as you imagine them undergoing emergency treatment.

Do you know any ex-alcoholics whom you can take some booze round to? Or ex-druggies, etc.

HTH :)

[ARW]

And vegans are so stupid they cannot read the label.

[Andrew]

Or the reduced-for-quick-sale section where most of it ends up

[T i m]

Well, you won't find the Mrs or I there atm as daughter is doing our shopping but it will make all our lives easier than having to find all the good stuff amongst the animal exploitation and remains etc.

And the bizarre thing of course is that *everyone* can eat vegan / vegetarian food (assuming you have a normal digestive system) so it

*will* become bigger as more people ask / buy it. [1]

Given the British and American Dietetic Associations have stated that a well planned vegan diet (any diet should be well planned) is adequate for people of all ages and we are all advised to cut back on meat for loads of different reasons, it just makes good sense.

I grilled these sausages for brunch, with some mushrooms, tomato and 'Heinz 5 Beans' on toast (and a mug of tea with oat milk etc):

This review sort of sums it up for me:

"I bought these last week and cooked for all the family I?m the only vegetarian but trying to encourage us all to eat less meat and the same food, they cooked up lovely and made my mouth water when cooking I didn't?t even tell my daughter they were meat free and she didn?t mention anything we all really enjoyed them the texture and flavour were lovely definitely buy again."

If the non vegi family 'all really enjoyed them', why would you want to support all the pain, suffering and pollution with the old fashioned ones?

Cheers, T i m

[1] The ice cream van we pass regularly when dog walking bought a couple of boxes of the Magnum vegan chock-ices in for us, and wasn't bothered when we had something different one hot day (a water lolly) because he said ... 'No, please don't feel obliged to buy them mate, I'm selling plenty to other people anyway ...' ;-)

He may have even been selling them to people who might not have bought anything in any case (as we often wouldn't).

[T i m]

If only ... and given most supermarkets are *expanding* their vegan range / retail area that wouldn't really make sense eh?

Cheers, T i m

[williamwright]

I dump mine in the halal section. But I do it carefully so it blends in.

Bill

[williamwright]

I don't want 'adequate'. I want another bacon sandwich.

Bill

[jon]

a Vick inhaler dissolved in lemonade.....

[RJH]

While I do tend to keep some vegan sausages or similar (Richmond very good!) in the freezer for a treat, a lot of vegan processed food is overpriced swill

- fat, salt, flour and 'flavour'. Better for the animal and probably the environment, but I dread to think what it might do to people.

Which in fairness is true of meat/animal based stuff too.

[RJH]

It's just a habit. You'd be surprised how quickly you can find something that tastes as good. Well, almost :-)

Although I did have a vegan bacon burger in Germany that did taste astonishingly like bacon - the cheese and meat was incredible too. I dread to think of the chemicals that went into making it happen, but things have certainly moved on on the taste/texture front.

[spuorgelgoog]

Bloody hell, I thought my diet was cheap and nasty, but I've never regarded any thing from Richmond as a 'treat'.

And I'm a moderately enthusiastic consumer of Ye Olde Oake Hotte Dogges.

Owain

[jon]

You will be returned to the stars in atoms.

[Spike]

Look on the bright side....if the veggie dishes were so good that meat eaters couldn't tell the difference, then meat products could be fed to vegans without telling them, and so help mitigate their mental decline due to lack of vitamin B12. If it brings vegans back into the omnivore fold and reduces their health risks from dietary insufficiencies, then it will ease the load on the NHS at a critical time, and so be a 'good thing'. I think you've really stumbled on something there.

[RJH]

They are made of some very questionable ingredients, but do taste and look good - even the 'meat' version IIRC. Salt and fat is my theory.

Probably a bit of burnt flavour added to the fat and salt.

[alan_m]

And they will remove that section as quickly if sales don't warrant the shelf space. I'll bet that the shelves in the "specialised" areas only carry the expensive stock

[alan_m]

Isn't that the mistake a lot of people make in assuming that if something is branded in such a way that it is natural and not highly processed?

I'm not sure why those manufacturing vegetarian burgers should try and imitate the taste of meat as surely they are aiming at a completely different market.

[Tim Streater]

T r o l l hasn't grasped that I'm not on a diet, therefore what any "Dietetic Association" may have to say is neither here nor there.

[alan_m]

+1