OT scare stories

[dennis]

do you think all journalists do the same job?

[Jock Green]

You use the google advanced search and specify that web site.

I think I'll leave it until I've got a year

[dennis]

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On the basis that they won the award you idiot.

[harry]

He can't even get on a bus or a train without assistance. So he is very poor value for money.

[Richard]

Let's hope you never do that, eh?

[Richard]

Enough about uk.d-i-y already.

[harry]

s And then we have the "stop and search" for weapon business. Police prevented from stopping black youths (they knew where to look). Now we have mass murder on the streets.

[harry]

We can't be sure some PC journalist rounded up brownies to do a bit of PC virtue signalling

[RJH]

Generally, not a newspaper - although any of the broadsheets will tend to get you in the ballpark of a decently robust description (like Wikipedia). I'm not so sure TV should ever be relied upon - exceptions, obviously. News media is generally just a rolling journal with often wobbly descriptions and quite hectic and biased analysis and criticism. But all the same not a bad way to get a quick/cruel description - at least of some of the 'peak' perspectives.

Getting a meta-view of news media is therefore time consuming and not especially relaible. cOn the topic we're looking at here (media and some notion of inverse racism) maybe a university reading list*. It's often an idea to read authors with opposing views, and firm things up by taking a closer look at their sources. Book reviews are also a valuable way of

Your local library catalogue or even Google Scholar.

But really more important than asking what to read etc, an open mind is the most important thing. Followed closely by enthusiasm. Techniques come later.

• LSE media and social science reading

Briggs, A. and Burke, P. (2002) A Social History of the Media: From Gutenberg to the Internet. Cambridge: Polity. Calabrese, A. and Sparks, C. (eds) (2004) Toward a Political Economy of Culture, Capitalism and Communication in the 21st Century, Lanham MD: Rowman & Littlefield. Castells, Manuel. (2009). Communication Power. Oxford University Press. Couldry, N. (2012). Media, Society, World: Social Theory and Digital Media. Cambridge: Polity. Curran, J. and Gurevitch, M. (eds) (2005) Mass Media and Society. 4th ed. London: Arnold. Curran, J. and Seaton, J. (2003) Power Without Responsibility. London: Routledge. Mansell, R. (2012) Imagining the Internet: Communication, Innovation and Governance. Oxford University Press. Mattelart, A. (2003) The Information Society: An introduction. London: Sage. McChesney, R (2000) Rich Media Poor Democracy. New York: New Press. T Atkinson Inequality: what can be done? (Harvard Press, 2015) H Dean and L Platt Social Advantage and Disadvantage (Oxford Press, 2015) B Milanovic Global Inequality: A new approach for the age of globalization (Harvard Press, 2016)

[Tim Watts]

And you're wrong.

[Tim Watts]

Conversely you have the recent Lewisham East by-election where Labour ran and all women all BAME shortlist - which in this day and age is gross and offensive discrimination - and doesn't really help BAME women as there'll always be the thought: "why couldn't she make it on equal terms".

Helping under represented minorities:

Acceptable and good: Positive campaign to get such folks to step forward. Some coaching seminars about how to run a campaign and other relevant areas. Then let them enter the race without further privilege and win on equal terms.

Unacceptable: What Labour did.

[Tim Watts]

I'm 100% gammon.

[Tim Watts]

How do you know what he can or can't do? Buses have ramps, stations have ramps which the guard or platform staff can fetch. Would you prefer such people to stay in the poorhouse like 1850?

[michael adams]

Oh dear, silly me.

Right up until the time I read that post, for some unaccountable reason I actually thought you were being serious in at least some of the inflammatory drivel you post on this, and other NG's.

But unfortunately harry you've just let the mask slip there.

michael adams

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[RJH]

It's due to the fact that we don't all get on together, and there's a profound nastiness directed at many minority groups, that this discussion takes place.

Glad you reminded me :-)

[spuorgelgoog]

Unless presenting an article about buses or trains, I don't think BBC people every actually travel on one, so that's irrelevant.

Owain

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Far far better to stay at home on benefit, then, harry? Or would you prefer all such people to be put down?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Start OT threads with a racist theme? Never.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Then join the labour party and help form their policies. After all, who they choose as candidates is their business?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Given a location TV presenter will need a crew with equioment, etc, would you really expect them to travel by PT?