Ot: Or not. tower fire...

Jun 14, 2017 417 Replies
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote the usual ill-informed gibberish news:ohqe9r$db4$ snipped-for-privacy@news.albasani.net...

Whereas according to the people actually responsible

The cladding was ACM an aluminium thermoplastic composite

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with a ventilation cavity of at least 25mm immediately behind the cavity

So that quite possibly the ventilation cavity running up the outside of the building acted as a chimney.

Which given that sheet aluminium is AAA rated for flammability means it must have been pretty efficient. Not that that explains how the flames got outside in the first place

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michael adams

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the point is they did away with a passive fire escape item i.e. the second escape route and replaced it with an active system i.e. smoke extraction to compensate ...and the overcladding was unusual to say the least.....

naw..they will just want moved out to "own front and back door" properties.......

Oh well then, why NOT walk around with nitroglycerine in your pocket, ad its only tripping up that will cause it to explode.

Given the poster, I am not even looking to

Frankly I think parachutes would have been more use.

must just be my road kill poverty XP lappy then......

A lot of information about the refurbishment here:

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some picture of the construction here:

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The architects for the refurbishment seem to have taken their site offline - it was up this morning:

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but the archive can be accessed here:

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Where did you find that was the exact system fitted?

Stupid sods

indeed it was, it didn't give any details other than a few glossy photos anyway.

Looks like someone requested the (one and only archive copy) be taken today ...

En el artículo , Andy Burns escribió:

following on from that, and after looking at the community action group website, it's perfectly clear that in about 2013 emergency access to the north side of the tower from Lancaster Road/Silchester Road, a small car park and three football pitches, was blocked by removal of the car park and courts and construction of an "academy".

The Grenfell residents' association complained about this to no effect, their main concern being that access to the tower in emergencies was now only possible from the narrow Grenfell Road which was frequently obstructed by illegal parking.

Google Earth's historical view facility makes this /very/ clear.

There's a pic of it here:

third photo down.

it will be a dodgy fridge bought from a market/car boot sale ....

En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson escribió:

and more detail of the exact cladding used, including makes and part numbers, further down the page.

Though lets be honest, fire appliances have front "bumpers" made from steel box girders, so would soon bump a transit out of the way if necessary ...

En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson escribió:

and the firm that fitted the cladding went bust after completing the Grenfell job:

En el artículo , Andy Burns escribió:

Grauniad (I know...) report from someone who was there:

"A car had been left in the middle of the road and nobody knew who the driver was, so the fire engines and ambulances couldn't get through"

maybe there was just no space to shove it into.

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