House survey questions

Mar 29, 2019 Last reply: 7 years ago 17 Replies

Survey carried out by me and my dad... Mostly ok but a few things I'm not sure about



The main DB (there is another off a Henley block) has what I can only describe as old-style MCBs that look a bit like MK LN 5945. The DB is a metal Proteus unit - 15 way, but 4-ways occupied by a bell transformer, and 4 more by the RCD. I get the impression that this will be post-1980 but can it be narrowed down any further? Cruddy picture I'm afraid.

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The house is rendered and has rust marks on the render.
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- what might be causing this? One small crack in the render that I'll need to fix, but no other signs of damage.
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Boiler is a Valiant Ecotec 630 plus. I suspect this was put in in 2008 when the loft conversion was done. Is that a good model? I see it has a stainless h/e which is a good start...



And what's going on here?

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Thanks!



Ben


I would have said very late 1980s or even early 1990s, as 1980s were still using Wylex rewireable boards domestically.

Possibly rust from from climbing plant support or cable clip nails?

Automatic boiler bypass?

The cables look too close to the hot pipes, and not properly clipped. Is the straggly metal wire a thermocuple or an earth? Apart from that looks neater than a lot I've seen.

Owain

non galvanised expamet for the render, or non galvanised nails?

It could be a few years earlier. But I suspect that you are close to the mark

Jump to page 11. So certainly not mid 90s. BS regs changed.

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In 1987 I left school. I was also left on my own for a week[1] when my parents when on holiday. Their fuse box melted when they were away. I caught the bus to the electrical wholesalers bought a CU and replaced it.

I'll have to have a look and see if it had type 2 or B type MCBs (it's now in their garage and they have a new CU after getting a new kitchen)

[1] I'll tell you the story about the party and the new driveway later....

Ben, is that really a Proteus unit or a MK unit with the lid held up covering the MK metal embossed logo on the top left of front cover?

Could easily be. I only identified as Proteus because of the label. I didn't look at the front face of the lid.

You probably didn't go for the cheapest possible though. I suspect a lot of price-sensitive work would still be using fuses. IIRC about 1994 a rewire used Proteus MCB/RCD and that was budget work, so fuses had fallen out of favour by then.

Owain

Proteus and MK, easily confused.

Owain

There is possibly more info on the label to the top right of the Proteus RCD label. Like you said it was a bit of a poor photo.

On the plus side as it is RCD main switch then there are no NE faults on the installation (assuming the RCD works). That would suggest that the electrics are in some sort of good working order.

Difficult to tell without seeing the whole context - but is there an under-floor heating zone? If so, it could be the gubbins controlling that.

I don't know why you'd need to narrow it down further. It's not compliant but close to.

rusting steel under the surface. Those will expand over time breaking the render up. A crack emanating from a window corner is never a good thing, but if it's just one it's minor

Vaillant & Worcester Bosch are the best makes.

Dunno, best guess: UFH.

NT

Things were different in those days. TBH I went into the wholesalers asked them what I needed and they sold it to me. I paid with a cheque from my Dad's cheque book that I signed myself with no check guarantee card. The guy behind the counter phoned the local pub to check with the landlord that I was who I said I was.

I had my own chequebook at 15 - National Girobank age limit.

Owain

So did I but the CU was not for me.

All the more reason to buy wholesale and sell retail :-)

Owain

It has been suggested to me that it might actually be red algae.

Good call. I went back to the vendor and asked what the UFH (if that) mixer was doing there. Response "No idea what a UFH mixer would look like, but we were told that there wasn't, but the bathroom has always felt like there was some. And my wife then told me she noticed the same when we looked round".

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