That doesn't sound right at all! The double-ended and protected needle is placed into the vein and then vacutainers can be attached and removed one after the other for any number of samples and then the needle is removed.
If numerous samples are expected to be taken over an extended period and/or drips/injections will be needed. A venflon is inserted and can be left in for use over the next few days.
SteveW
I've done stints (6 months at a time) of 65+ hour weeks and there is no life outside work. You get home, eat if you can stay awake and go to bed. Get up and go back to work. The money is great for a while, but it's no kind of life long term.
SteveW
Yes. Perfectly acceptable.
Unlike my wife's frequent visits to the eye hospital (and my father's visits) where they give huge number of people appointments between 08:30 and 08:45 every time and you don't ever get seen before 10:30 and sometimes as late at 15:45 (despite clinic supposedly closing at 13:30)!
Or when I took my sister to appointments. 30-odd people all given a
09:00 appointment and when we arrived (early), her notes were put into the basket. Every other person arriving after had their notes put on top and then they worked down from top to bottom. These days I would point out the problem and insist that she was seen first, but back then I was young and not assertive enough.
Holidays are comparable to private companies, with extra leave for long service (my father had that at the private company her worked for).
Maternity leave is better than average - 8 weeks full pay, 18 weeks half-pay plus statutory maternity pay when we had children.
Paid leave, yes for family emergencies, etc. More than private companies, but not much more than the bigger private ones.
NHS pensions, good yes, but the employee has to make a substantial contribution each month as well. Newer employees are on a far less lucrative deal.
SteveW
It sounds exactly right but you misunderstood what I said.
My local hospital, which has a relatively small car park given the size, is fine before 10, but fills up rapidly afterwards.
When having my course of treatment, I opted for a 9.45 appointment for all. Meaning easy parking and in and out within the hour.
Lets say she worked 10 hours without a break.
That is one patient every 36 seconds.
My surgery - although a 4 doctor group practice - doesn't do blood. They give you a printed form - complete with barcode sticky labels - you take to a big choice of places who do. Other group practices and NHS clinics, etc.
Which seems a good idea to me. Best to have a specialist nurse who is fully occupied.
That's about the same with the QE. It has at least 150 blue badge spaces but its hard to find one after 10:30.
And I wonder what proportion of those blue badge holders are actually entitled to them ?.
And it will have a 'special' phlebotomists chair for the patient, while 40+ years ago the patient just sat on a conventional chair, like you would find in a library, rest their arm on the formica table top and that's it.
Another example of the sort of spectacular wasted spending carried out during the Blair/Brown era.
Utter waste of a nurses time, taking blood from outpatients.
Err, no. While removing and inserting a number of different tubes with various anticoagulants etc there is much more chance of pushing the needle through the vein and giving the patient a big haematoma. Been there, done it, 40+ years go.
Some people have very fragile veins.
Sometimes the effort required to push a new specimen container into the back of the needle means you can easily puncture the other side of the vein.
The actualfact is that you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
The Beckman-Coulter blood counters will chomp through hundreds or even thousands of tests a day. Like everything else they are stuffed with computer technology that is programmed to interpret the results automatically. Only a Lab assistant with minimal qualifications is needed to run these things, replacing reagents, routine cleaning, loading and unloading specimens, and lab clerk to do the admin. This is how the system 'works'.
Only those results that need looking at by a qualified person will be flagged up. The 'normal' results will just go back to the requester be it GP or ward without any more attention. For routine pre and post op screening, no further action is required.
Even the qualified person will be a lab technician (or Med Lab Scientific Officer to use their new bullshit names). Only if they think the results need to be seen by a medical haematologist will it be escalated.
Biochemistry/Chemical Pathology labs don't normally have medically qualified people, there is generally a Biochemist in charge and he/she will refer to whoever needs to know.
Unlike you I have worked for the NHS for a number of years, in a variety of haematology labs and computer departents, and have the qualifications that were needed to get to the top of the relevent pay scales.
You are just a patient who never sees what happens behind the scenes
So you have a small emergency lab in every hospital with multi-disciplinary staff.
In other words, JUST LIKE IT IS NOW !!.
40 years ago some tests like blood gases had to be taken with a syringe, that was capped to seal it and tekn to the Biochemistry lab who had an expensive blood gas analyser made by Radiometer (Denmark).Now these machines can be installed in hospital locations other than the labs.
I used the word as a general term. No idea if a qualified nurse as such. Just a specialist in this job.
And If you've ever had an inexperience fully qualified doctor try to get blood from a difficult patient, you'd know why a specialist is best. Just the same as many medical treatments.
they all have badges.
as do I.
It can be quite difficult to walk on bad days and stairs are difficult any day.
Thats what cancer does to you, sometimes.
You can always go and stand there and ask them if you want.
they look like pretty ordinary chairs where I go, you must go somewhere for special people.
They are the same chairs as in the waiting room.
That would be the reason why they have a silicon tube between the cannula and the bit the tubes go it. Have you actually ever had blood taken or are you just making all this up?
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