Electric cars - running costs.

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

You obviously don't understand the effect and impracticality of trivial red tape.

[damduck-egg]

Those who use boats for commercial uses can still use fuel at the lower rate.

I don't see why the owner of a Sunseeker or similar large pleasure vessel who is willing to spend a couple of million buying it and a few thousand a year just berthing it should get cheap fuel to aid their hobby when someone who can only afford to indulge in a bit of car rallying or a bit of green laning in their Land Rover cannot.

G.Harman

[Steve Walker]

You can use red diesel in your Landrover, as long as you do not drive on public highways - and that includes green lanes, as they are still designated as such.

You can off-road around a private quarry or farmer's field to your heart's content on red diesel.

SteveW

[harry]

Money and smart meters.

[damduck-egg]

A green lane doesn't have doesn't have any legal definition as such , it is just a descriptive name for a of type track that is unmetalled. Some are not public highways, others are many having been re designated in recent times to restrict access to vehicles but there are still quite a number that are fully accessible. You need to be fully legal as regards insurance, MOT if the vehicle requires one and Ironically road tax, I doubt you will get away with trying to claim that because such a road is unmetalled you can use red diesel.

Well.that is a bit of a statement of the obvious and if those who run off road experiences courses and have no need to drive the vehicles off site it would save a few bob but I also mentioned car rallying and there cannot be that many places in the UK where you could hold a car rally without traversing public roads,not that many rally cars will be diesel anyway though if you include road runs which are a pleasure trip exhibiting interesting vehicles some will be. A motoring hobby that has grown in recent years is the weekend tractor run as it is relatively cheap to get hold of and maintain an interesting old piece of machinery and go off in convoy with others hindering the journey to the garden centre for 1000's Some belong to people who keep them in a suburban semi others are an old "pet" on a farm that grandad bought and is still used for small jobs rather than fire up the mew bungalow sized John Deere.

HMRC have noticed this new hobby and have warned a few people that driving to a pub on your tractor isn't actually an agricultural purpose and that using red diesel may result in prosecution. No problem for the bloke in the semi to comply but the farm pet may still be in use for agriculture most of the time.

G.Harman

[bert]

Really?

[Brian Reay]

How people spend their money is their business- provided it is legal. To tax people who spend it on things on the basis they must be 'wealthy' is the just envy.

(I don't have a boat but I am do drive several vehicles, including a 'thirsty' diesel. )

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Really? If you tax fuel used on a car so that even the poorest have to pay for it, why should such fuel be tax free elsewhere?

[dennis]

Because a car is not considered to be essential, if it was they could get rid of public transport.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

A gin palace is essential transport?

[harry]

That is their ultimate purpose.