Combination lock for outside door - is this Yale any good?

Any external bolt, like the one you linked to, is extremely easy to get through with an angle grinder.

I got though a Chubb high security mortice lock on an outward opening door in 3 minutes with the 9" angle grinder. That Yale bolt looks like it would take only a few seconds.

That's true of all our garage doors anyway, the stable door is so flimsy you'd only have to push hard and it would disintegrate. As I said, I'm not after high security, just a way of not leaving it open really, stop our own family etc.

So are there any non-external locks/bolts suitable for a garage door with no-key locking?

I wouldn't fancy trying to open that after a hard frost! Those wheels look so small, gloves would be out of the question!

The weak point in many garages/outbuildings is the roof which is often very flimsy.

No point in having just one part of a building super secure.

I think they are only meant to deter the opportunist, nut the determined, but if its a barn then sureley you would probably not open the door, simply drive a vehicle in through the side? Brian

Goodness, why is everyone trying to tell me how secure (or not) my garage should be! I just want a way to 'lock' (as in prevent passers by, children, etc. entering) the door.

Security is a non-issue hereabouts (happily), we quite often forget to shut the garage doors overnight and have never had anything taken in the twenty years or more that we have been here. The side door to the garage is rarely locked, neither are our shed doors and there are tools and such in the sheds.

But I do want to be able to lock the door a *bit* more securely than just latching it.

I've actually come the conclusion that an 'ordinary' mechanical button operated lock this like this will work fine:-

You can get combination padlocks (some quite heavy duty) which can be used in conjunction with ordinary padbolts / Brenton bolt latches (which can be bolted through a wooden door or welded to a metal one)

If the Yale combination bolt works the same way as

Owain

I was wondering what's wrong with a hasp and combination padlock?

Nothing in principle but less handy to use than a push button type lock.

A hasp and padlock sort of integrated into a single device would be OK though.

NOT applicable for your application but those type of locks can be very insecure as well.

They may have 4 digit combination but often it doesn't matter in which order you press the 4 number buttons. Unless the code is changed regularly or the buttons are regularly cleaned it can become obvious which 4 buttons are being used.

They are all 'non-sequential' as they call it, but most do have more than just the 0-9 buttons, they have a couple of letters that can be part of the combination too. Our stable door one is stainless steel finish and, even after quite a few years, doesn't really show which buttons have been used most.

So, not *very* secure no, I quite agree, but adequate for what I want.

As an aside our garage electronic push button keypads are much worse as regards showing which buttons have been used, it's very obvious. The only saving grace is that the code is unique and has to be entered exactly as the right number.