Better get an allotment or a second hand refrigerated truck?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The unions certainly do. Why would I and others pay for something that doesn't do what you want?

Which is exactly what I didn't say.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Which would have been agreed by those your wife voted for to represent her on the union committee. Called democracy.

I'm sure she is a very good Tory too.

[Andrew]

The only group that have 'benefitted' from EU decisions are the self-employed, but a good many of them are actually hidden employees who like the extra money being self-employed, but then are quick to claim the benefits of being an employee when it all goes wrong - like the 'self-employed' plumber working for Pimlico Plumbers who had a heart problem and decided to have his cake and eat it.

[Andrew]

It also results in the massive problems facing Sunday (and weekday) rail timetables. In years gone by the TOCs relied on the drivers doing well- paid overtime on weekends and bank hols.

Now the RMT is picking off each company in turn and drivers are now much better paid than say HGV drivers, and no longer need to do as much overtime.

[tim...]

because that's a complete lie

[tim...]

the same place that it comes from now

tim

[tim...]

really?

you haven't studied very many union rule books

tim

[tim...]

yes it was

tim

[tim...]

yep

I'll short RJH's bet, he's onto a big looser

[tim...]

you need a cite for that

Google finds me nothing

tim

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Of course. Just like the many other lies the Brexiteer press like the Express published. Take a true example you can find and apply to all. Worked a treat with their readers.

[tim...]

well how the f*ck could they possibly know that

the reason that we *may* be paying more for EU food is because it will have the same tariff applied to it that is ALREADY applied to the ROW stuff - yet we still buy ROW stuff at competitive prices.

Once they don't suffer a tariff disadvantage, any sensible ROW country would want to leverage that to sell more of their stuff at the same price as now, not put up their prices so that we just carry on buying the EU goods.

One or two ROW countries my be numpties, but the idea that they all will be is just daft

tim

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Well, our biggest single source of income - including goods and services - is the EU.

How do you intent replacing that? From that nice Mr Trump?

Or are you still praying leaving the EU won't adversely affect the country's income?

[tim...]

countries will just have to do what they are good at

Oz is obviously not going to be good at things that require water

tim

[critcher]

the "Senior Expert"

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Total bollocks. Many non self employed benefitted from the EU directive on working hours.

Nothing to do with the EU. This government were happy to allow people to be so called self employed when they weren't. To suit their pals in big business.

There were very firm rules defining self employment under the last Labour government. Up to each government to enforce them or not.

The cake and eat it bit is very much in favour of the employer. At the expense of the taxpayer. Ie, the rest of us.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Came as a surprise to rail companies that they have to run a service 7 days a week, did it?

Perhaps they need to look at how many other organisations manage such things. Even running 24/7/365.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Well, the biggest one we seem to be relying on post Brexit - the US - seems to pay as much attention to WTO rules as China. Or any other.

Not much point in having rules if everyone breaks them and no action taken.

[Pamela]

Wouldn't that breach WTO rules by asking another country to trade with the UK on more favourable tariffs than it trades with the EU?

WTO rules require no MFN privilege. (Unless the MFN tariff is used with all countries).

Furthermore, current tariff-free trade between the UK and EU will, after Brexit, become subject to the standard tariffs which the EU uses with the ROW. So goods traded with the EU are going to incur tariffs.

[Pamela]

There probably hasn't been a worse time to establish new international trade agreements in the last forty years.

The US is not going to give us any bargains as a trading partner. What Trump calls "fair" is not what anyone else calls fair.

Also, post-Brexit Britain is likely to get caught in the crossfire from US global trade wards.