1st year apprentice

[ARW]

Only when I said I would like to f*ck his mother.

[Tim Streater]

That's A = (pi)r^2. So d = 2r = square-root (A/pi)

And I used a calculator.

[Tim Streater]

Re-read "you will know what wire has a diameter numerically equal to its CSA".

So you will but I'm not sure why you mentioned it.

[ARW]

You will get some odd looks and rude comments in a wholesalers if you go and ask for that.

[ARW]

I could probably get a photo of three 2.5mm cores twisted together. That would require me going to the van and taking a photo of the griddle I have been asked to fix.

[dennis]

None of the above.

[Marland]

While motored tools drawing around that Wattage will be rare in domestic use there are some tools that use around 2kW. My Makita hot air gun is 2kW ,the Earlex steam stripper is 2.3.

Both will drawing that load longer than the fairly short burst of use of a drill etc. Though they will be on the way out eventually I?m sure many DIY jobs have been done by the light of some 500W halogen lamps running from an extension into a powerless location and tools run from the same source also used on winter nights and weekends to run a fan heater.

Better to have a beefy extension lead than a small one with limitations for that purpose.

GH

[Cursitor Doom]

We only found out about the 10A fuse when I got some wallah around to do a bit of welding. Since this was very light gauge stuff which I can't be doing with, I got this specialist bloke in. He'd been using it on and off for about 4 hours before the fuse in the reel finally gave up the ghost. Poor bugger had been cussing about not being able to strike up as smoothly as he usually could so it looks like his MIG was being current- starved by a fuse that was 3A less than it should have been for that load. Had it not been for that incident, I'd most likely never have known!

[Pamela]

The apprentice seems not to have been paying the slightest attention to the instructions and wandered off to find another length of cable which wasn't even mentioned and fitted a plug to that.

[Tim Streater]

By the way, what is "chinesium"?

[Marland]

Fear of getting a sibling that might look like you could be the reason for that.

GH

[Andy Burns]

copper clad steel wire?

[Josh Nack]

There's not training involved in knowing what to put the plug on and he did wire the plug correctly.

I expect the poor lad

Maybe, but we don't have any video of Adam telling one what to do so it isn't certain how clearly he says that or even if he monsters them when doing that.

Treat them like monkeys and monkeys are what

Not with the best of them. But clearly the best of them arent likely to be apprentices at 16 now.

[Cursitor Doom]

True enough, but what can you expect for 5p or whatever it costs? When I was a kid, if a fuse blew and we didn't have any fusewire in the house, dad said just cut a strip off a milk bottle top and use that instead until you get some more fuse wire. I'm guessing in my grandad's day, they'd say, "just cut a strip off a milk bottle top and use that." And in my *great* grandfather's day, they'd say, "just stick a broken nail in there."

1st year apprentices will think I'm kidding, but I'm actually so not!

[Cursitor Doom]

I think it's useful at this point to emphasise the "round trip" element of the calculation here. Far too many diyers seem to think either:

All the current supplied to the load is consumed within it.

Or,

The current the load requires is consumed within it and whatever is left over is returned to the grid and knocked off your bill.

Peeps, please remember that provided there isn't an earth leakage fault,

*all* the current your domestic installation draws is returned to the power company. Not only that, but the average *voltage* supplied to your house over that same 3 months by the power company is precisely zero. So you're paying all that money every quarter for FUCK ALL. HAHAHAHAHAHA!! }:-> ;->

[Cursitor Doom]

Someone else already covered that in an earlier post about callow 14yr olds wiring sockets, IIRC. :-)

[Cursitor Doom]

I'll bet you could tell a tale or two - and not just about all the birds you've shagged.

[Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp]

Not really, He's just laying down the groundwork for the next time he's asked.

Next time the plug will be on the right cable, the top will be on and ARW will be in heaven. Literally, if he doesn't don the rubber gloves and wellies :-)

The apprentice will have a wonderfully erratic track record that will render him almost blameless and ARW's remains will not be thought highly of.

Apprentice 1, ARW 0

AB

[Dave Liquorice]

Was looking at short (1 or 2 m ish) 4 way "extensions" in Tesco. The first thing that I noticed was the flex was only about 5 mm dia, then saw the sticker "10 A Fuse Fitted".

A 13 A fuse lasts about 1 1/2 kettles full (5 mins?) when sharing with an urn... load of 4 to 5 kW (16 to 20 A)

[FMurtz]

You would be wrong, thousands, maybe millions of 240v extension leads are 1mm square csa.