That has good and bad sides to is. Going back to DOS and early
Widows, if you worked on ten computers, there would be ten variations
of updates or changes. Every program you bought has some tweak to it
that made it "better" than original Windows and ended up causing
crashes or other incompatibilities. Play this game and then reboot
because it did something to the video or the like. Our accounting
program must be exited by their menu, not the corner X or ALT F6.
With mandatory updates, everyone should be closer to having the same
core program and hopefully, less overall problems. That remains to be
Back in the day, I bought an Osborne I portable, all 23 pounds of it. As
a contractor I was working in the client's shop and got real tired of
adapting to whatever lashup they had. CP/M wasn't the be all and end all
but at least when I opened up the box I had the tools and OS I was
familiar with and wasn't wasting the client's money with OJT.
Historically I wasn't very happy with IBM pushing out the 8088 stopgap
that brought us to where we are today rather than the Zilog or Motorola
offerings but at least they had the clout to swing the market to one
system. (neglecting the Apple Corps of course)
| >| Which makes it the same as Win 7 as far as the internet is concerned.
| >| Nowhere does it call it "spyware."
| > Suit yourself. It is true that Microsoft doesn't
| >call Win10 spyware. So I guess that settles that. :)
| Yep. Do you think they're illegally "spying" on users?
You're twisting words. First you said the
terms never mention spyware. Of course they
don't! That's deceptive phrasing. Now you
insert the qualifier "illegally". In Eurpoe it's
probably illegal. In the US it almost certainly
isn't. Privacy laws are now years behind the
technology and it's unclear if or when they'll
catch up. Google claims the right to rifle
through your email and save copies after
you've deleted them. Microsoft is now making
the same claims, not only for their webmail
but also for Windows. *They're conflating
the terms for the two products.*
You either don't care about that or you
don't want to know. I do care. It's spyware.
They have no right by the laws of common
decency. Whether they're acting legally
according to the laws of our current American
corporatocracy is not my basis for assessing
| You couldn't even view a photo somebody posted to a public site,
| and I should listen to you?
You weren't paying attention. I couldn't
view the photo probably because I don't
have script enabled and the poster didn't
know how to post the image so that it could
be easily viewed. You're using IE11
with script enabled. I pointed out that's
highly risky. You don't want to know.
We both ended up seeing the picture, but
I didn't risk security to do it.
| >> disabled Cortana.
| >Now, ask Cortana the weather - does it respond?
| You have to agree to allow MS to collect "some" data
| before you can use Cortana. I haven't done so.
| May not have actually "disabled" it, but I'll look into it as I tweak
| my system.
Who would care about that, anyway? You
can enable Cortana, ask the weather, and
she'll probably say, "It's going to be a nice
day, Vic. You should go to the beach! Do you
want a coupon for 10% off sunscreen at the
CVS 2 blocks from where you are now?" Or if
you really want to know the weather you can
get the real thing:
I'm continually surprised by how many people
are still wowed by the latest gadgets, like
children entranced by George Jetson. Siri and
Cortana serve no relevant purpose aside from
feeding futuristic fantasies and providing party
conversation. Yet people persist in dreaming that
some amazing, Edenic future is just around the
Maybe if they come out with a "space age"
Cortana full size sex toy with "high tech silicone"
organs, I might be curious to take it for a spin.
On the other hand, I can't quite see Bill Gates and
Satya Nadella having the right touch for such a
product. :) Aside from that, in general I prefer that
my computer not talk to me.
My car is capable of voice commands and I do use it while driving for
a few things. It works, it makes sense. It allows me to keep eyes on
I don't want to sit at my desk and talk to the machine. Or in an
airport with a laptop. Or any other circumstance. I can type and
click a mouse button, thank you.
Keep me posted about the Beta test on toys though. I may volunteer to
help, in the name of science.
| > Maybe if they come out with a "space age"
| >Cortana full size sex toy with "high tech silicone"
| >organs, I might be curious to take it for a spin.
| >On the other hand, I can't quite see Bill Gates and
| >Satya Nadella having the right touch for such a
| >product. :) Aside from that, in general I prefer that
| >my computer not talk to me.
| Keep me posted about the Beta test on toys though. I may volunteer to
| help, in the name of science.
Will do. Normally I wouldn't even consider
testing Microsoft's products without getting
paid for it. But in this case.... the beta test
might even be more fun than the final product. :)
Where's the kid live? I need an upgrade from my $21 LG flipper that
doesn't do much of anything except make phone calls.
I'm not a Luddite but I've noticed if i go to a concert or something
half the people are dicking with their phone.
Many carriers have subsidized phone plans like that. Even though you
think that iPhone only cost $100 you are still paying near full price
(or more) in inflated service costs over those 2 years. That's why you
have to pay big $$$$ to break the contract early.
I too am on a subsidized phone plan. My list price $350 Kyocera phone
was "free" with a 2 year Verizon contract. But we all know it really
wasn't free, don't we.
Kinda sounds like the W10 "free" upgrade thing, huh. We know there's
likely a catch somewhere but unlike the phone companies we just
haven't figured out where yet.
Which is why you should get a new phone every two years if you are on
a 2 year contract plan. Because even if you don't you are still paying
Verizon now has a plan where you own your own phone and the service is
$10 to $25 dollars cheaper depending on your data plan. I did the math
and the subsidy plan was a cheaper plan for me. YMMV. Also you should
be sure you want to stay two years. For me Verizon has the best
coverage so it was a no brainer.
On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-4, J0HNS0N wrote:
Except that in my experience, the carrier only gives you about $100
or so towards the cost of a new phone, not the full price.
Verizon was my carrier and all they gave me towards a new phone was $100
every two years. Then, because I was on one of their lower plans, they
reduced that to $50. Now I'm on Virgin Mobile with their prepaid plan.
At the time I went over, V was still a lot more expensive. Now, most of
the carriers have a prepaid plan for ~$35 a month, which includes unlimited
V/T, and ~500MB of data. I agree, most people would be better off buying
a phone and going with one of those plans. You can find all kinds of phones
on Ebay at good prices. Also carriers typically have some refurbished ones,
including new models, at decent prices.
Well, that is *your* experience. And you are talking about Verizon, not
At&T. I paid $100 for my iPhone 4s plus the $18 upgrade fee. Before that
I got a Samsung Sunburst for free and there should have been an $18
upgrade fee but AT&T screwed up and didn't charge me the $18.
I just checked and I can get an iPhone 5s for $99.99 plus the upgrade
fee which has been increased to $45. iPhone 6 $199 plus upgrade fee.
iPhone 6 Plus $299.99 plus the $45 upgrade fee.
Here is a screen shot for the iPhone 5s for $99.99.
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