Want Windows 10? You got it: for free. This is a sea change in
Microsoft's strategy when it comes to upgrades. Gratis upgrades will
be available for Windows 7, 8.1 and even Windows Phone 8.1 users for a
Should have googled before my post. It will be available to all current
users of 7 and 8.1:
I got an Android based tablet for Christmas and believe Android may be
the worlds largest OS and upgrades are apparently free. If MS wants to
be competitive, this is competition they must beat.
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 2:22:32 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
From googling, it sure looks like it means a year from the date
it's launched, not the date you bought a PC. Seems kind of silly
for MSFT to be making a major announcement, talking about free for Win 7
if it was only if you had bought the PC within a year.
Most PCs aren't be sold with 7 anymore already, no? and 10 is a long ways out.
Apparently there are a few computers with 7 to be sold and MS does not
want to make them boat anchors. Oren wondered why not Vista and
probably same reasoning in that there are not any unsold Vista machines.
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 3:31:34 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Again, from everything I've seen online, it's as Moe said, one year from
the date of Win 10 release, not from the date of any PC purchase. Where
do you see that it has anything to do with when the PC was purchased?
My initial thought was that was done in the past when a new OS was
coming out you'd get a chit for the new one when you bought the old one.
I just got an ad from HP that they were selling Win 7 machines with up
to 25% off.
Too damned lazy to click the link and read, hey? Or are you
Here's another link:
Free Upgrade Offer
Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices
that upgrade in the first year!* And even better: once a qualified
Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it
up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more
secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for
no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send
you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the
*It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some
hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary
by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows
Update enabled. ISP fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1
Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise,
Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software
Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to
Windows 10 Enterprise outside of this offer. We will be sharing more
information and additional offer terms in coming months.
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 1:13:42 AM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
Wow, must be connected to the internet to get the free update.
What a show stopping hurdle for consumers! Outrageous!
So far, from what I see my Win 7 PCs are covered.
Amazing how some folks want to just piss all over stuff, even when it
looks genuine and generous. I mean here is MSFT giving out a free
major OS upgrade and you're complaining.
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 5:17:07 AM UTC-7, trader_4 wrote:
old Win 7 system.
ted to the Internet.
If Windows 10 is to be given out FREE, then we should be able to go to a co
mputer outlet such as Staples or The Source and get a FREE disk with the so
ftware and no questions asked. Downloading the software as a service gives
way too much control to Microsoft. I wonder if after the FREE offer is over
will the purchased version be substantially different than the FREE one. T
here has to be a catch somewhere.
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 2:52:58 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
r old Win 7 system.
ected to the Internet.
computer outlet such as Staples or The Source and get a FREE disk with the
software and no questions asked. Downloading the software as a service give
s way too much control to Microsoft. I wonder if after the FREE offer is ov
er will the purchased version be substantially different than the FREE one.
There has to be a catch somewhere.
I guess when you're the one giving out free stuff, you can decide
how and where you're going to do it. I haven't bought a CD based
software product in years. Just got some antivirus software for example,
downloaded it from the manufacturer, entered the activation code.
That is the model the world is moving to, especially given the shift
in platforms, ie smartphones, tablets, etc.
I think it's unreasonable to expect a company to stock retail channels
with a free product, that they don't have to give you to begin with.
Who's going to pay for that? They don't stock retail with SP1, SP2, etc,
ie the other free upgrades they give you. That's how MSFT is apparently
treating this. If I was MSFT, I might offer a CD version, sold directly,
for some reasonable charge to cover the costs, for people in special circum
When it's being given away for free, the recipients can take it or
Google doesn't charge for Android, and it's the main OS in the mobile
market. Apple doesn't charge for updates to their OS, and it's the
second-biggest OS in the mobile market. Windows still dominates in the
office environment - for now. Thing is, the younger folk use their
mobile devices and thus are more prone to choose an OS that they're
familiar with. Once they get into positions of power, they will very
likely not choose Windows. Thus, Microsoft has to expand their user
base to include mobile users. Their first incredibly clumsy misstep in
that direction was Windows 8. They alienated their long term
desktop/laptop users and corporate clients stayed away in droves. They
learned their lesson, and Windows 10 is supposedly going to be a more
nuanced second attempt to familiarize the users of both mobile and
desktop/laptop devices with one OS that will be usable (with minor
changes) on both types of hardware. So they think they have a better
product, well, now the second challenge is getting the critical mass
of adopters to it. Since they're playing the long game, the smarter
approach is to give it away (at first) in hopes of reaching that
critical user mass. Microsoft's future may be at stake.
I still have an XP machine at home and a couple at work. They are doing
what needs to be done, reliably. W7 is better, but I'd now spend the
money unless I was putting it towards a new machine out of need.
| > And why don't they include Vista?
| Because all six people using Vista already upgraded from that crap.
I don't think there's really much difference between
Vista and 7. I think of them as the same OS. But
there are two factors that make them seem different:
1) It's easier to tone down the pointless nags in
Win7, making it appear to be smoother.
2) Microsoft screwed up the release of Vista. Intel
had a big pile of chipsets they wanted to dump, but
those chipsets couldn't support the demanding Aero
graphics. (The translucent techno-kitsch that was
the only real selling point of Vista/7.) So Microsoft
helped out their buddy, creating new categories of
vista at the last minute. The general public got very
confused, faced with choosing between PCs that
fully ran Vista and PCs that could run Vista but
couldn't do Aero. As a result, Vista got a bad
Microsoft acted in a similar way with WinME. When
that version flopped they sort of swept it under the rug,
pretending that it just didn't exist. Now, for some time,
it's been Vista's turn to be the black sheep that no one
admits to. Yet if one just turns off User Account Control
in Vista I don't think there's much difference between
that and Win7. (Personally I avoid both. I occasionally use
Win7-64 for memory intensive things, but I prefer the
leaner, no-nonsense style of XP. It doesn't fight with
me about how I want to do things, and its spyware
functionality is less well developed.)
I know of a few people running Vista from a new machine and have had no
problems. I know people that upgraded from XP to Vista and had many
problems. That may be the biggest difference in reliability. W7 was
explained to me as being "what Vista was supposed to be".
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