Most absurd lie on a product

You clearly don't understand that the mask is for protecting others, as even the vaccinated may be able to infect others.

Equally clearly, you are a Republican.

"VERDICT

False. mRNA vaccines do not alter the ?recipients? ?DNA and? Moderna? CMO Tal ?Zaks ?did not say they did.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team."

The staff at Moderna who do the actual work, don't talk like that, because the terminology is not precise enough for scientific usage. In the picture, you can see two parts of the immune system being trained up on the antigen.

( April 2019

"mRNA as a Transformative Technology for Vaccine Development to Control Infectious Diseases"

Just as your medical doctor at the clinic, insists on all that stuff he learned in school like "fibula" when he could have said something else. When info is passed from one doctor to another, the hope is that they all agree what a "fibula" is. Whereas their bushy eyebrows would wiggle if someone said "software of life". Because such terminology is bullshit.

Paul

I've just watched that and it says no such thing.

For the flu vaccine, it talks about injecting mRNA, which instructs cells to produce a protein which looks like the virus. The immune system can then learn to defend against it. Once the mRNA is used up, the cells will no longer produce that protein and the protein is destroyed. The only change is that your body has by then learned to defend against the virus - without the risks of having to catch it to do so.

This is how the Covid-19 vaccine works.

Separately, he then goes on to talk about a life-limiting condition that means that faulty DNA does not produce mRNA that is required for the body to produce proteins to help it survive stress. Again mRNA is injected, but this time as a medication. While the mRNA is in the body, it acts as a replacement for the mRNA that the body is not producing, allowing the immune system to function normally. The DNA is not changed, the fault remains, and injections must be repeated to keep replacing the mRNA that has been used up.

In neither case is the DNA modified in any way.

Of course *diseases* all modify DNA, either by killing the host or by generating an inheritable immunity, otherwise we wouldn't have survived...

... its all vaguely reminiscent of the 'dihydrogen oxide' scare...

The function of a vaccine is precisely that - to modify at some level, DNA

Protect others? Seriously? Tell that to the millions of drunk/drugged/distracted drivers I'm forced to share the road with. Sheeeesh!

And proud I'm not part of the democrat's 2020 election heist.

Nice bit of what-about-ery there.

Nice Republican answer.

You can get those half price (assuming you mean the mobile phone sized Li Ion slabs). Order one from China on Ebay. Charge it fully, then power a bulb off it and time how long it lasts and measure the current. It will be a lot less than what it says on the label for the capacity (the full capacity couldn't fit in that size and weight with current technology). Tell the seller this (they probably won't even ask for evidence you did the test). They'll either give you half your money back or a free one because it "must be faulty". I now have two for the price of one, which in parallel will start even the most stubborn of cars.

I haven't.

Nope.

That doesn?t MODIFY dna, just the host.

Vaccines don?t do that. In fact when the vaccine prevents you from getting infected it stops the DNA being modified by the virus killing those with the less effective DNA.

Nope. It actually stops that happened with those who get infected when it stops them getting infected.

precision of dose

The big ones dont hurt much if the plunger is pushed slowly - why waste money you big wuss....

The TDP figures given by Intel and AMD may be given in "Watts" but they don't correspond to actual watts of power consumed by the processor, they're calculated mumbo-jumbo, then the cooler manufacturers base their recommendations on the CPU manufacturer numbers, so it's lies all the way down ...

Should be easy enough to get it fairly accurate by inhalation. Give the patient some air with the vaccine in it, they breathe it all in and hold their breath for 2 minutes. You could calculate how much they absorb in that time.

The plunger doesn't hurt at all. I doubt you even feel the liquid going in.

How hard can it be to quote the TDP as the amount of power the CPU uses (which is the same as the amount of heat it gives off)?

It is used for engineering as well as public relations purposes.

The coolers are "honest" in that their theta can be verified by FrostyTech and they'd look bad if they fudged the number.

What is happening today, is "industrialized overclocking".

Paul

What part of engineering requires a number that is meaningless to be stated? It's neither the heat given off or the power used.

Are you saying the TDP of my Ryzen is actually 105W if I forbid it to up the clock? That's like selling a car that will go 100mph and only make a noise of 50dB. But not telling you that you can't do both at once. Actually I've seen that kind of bullshit, I bought an HP (spit!) laser printer which quoted pages per minute. It was referred to (hidden away in the smallprint) as "blank page speed". If you printed blank pages, it would achieve that speed. But a full page of text (what most people print) was nowhere near as fast. What they'd done is tell you how fast it could spin the roller.

I wouldn't know, I tend to avoid torture.

There are a few web articles about all the power states now, and all I can say with any certainty is "TDP applies to base clock". It's intended as a long term number, where the cores drop to base clock, because the all-cores turbo table doesn't allow anything higher than base clock.

Some 3.7GHz processors, do 5.1GHz on one core, 5.0Ghz on two cores. And on all-cores, the multiplier drops back to the base clock value. And then there's a remote chance that TDP is the power value at that point.

But if you make power measurements, you'll be seeing all sorts of values. The odds of observing 95W on a 95W processor are pretty slim, and you're just as likely to see it drawing 140W.

My processor isn't "ancient", but it also doesn't have the latest turbo features, so the power model for it is simpler. It seems to draw a bit more than TDP, but not outrageously so. And that would be TDP on all-cores at base clock (possibly

Paul

That reminds me of the useless single-use "torch" my uncle gave me as a present once. Two chemicals that you mix together in a plastic tube and it glows green for a few hours. Then you put it in the bin. I've seen someone on Youtube try putting it in the microwave, it's hilarious. He ended up with it in his eye, and his dad's only concern was the damage to his brand new shirt.

Fauci. You're in the US then. (oh - cross posted to US and UK groups)

Half a million people have died from Covid in the USA out of 33 million cases so far. That's 1 in 60.

If the other 90% of the US get it you can expect another 5 million deaths - and without the vaccines you probably will.

And there's growing evidence that 10-20% of cases result in long term health problems.

I'll take the possible trivial risks of the vaccine. Like, for example the 30 cases of clots out of 10 million doses of the J&J/Janssen that the CDC have reported. 1 in 300,000.

Andy