Where do you source 35 Amp 220VAC circuit breakers that are NOT in typical box stores?

On 10/27/19 4:08 PM, Arlen _G_ Holder wrote: [ usual s*it deleted ]

This is why you don't buy Generac equipment.

I used to be a service manage at a sales and service tool store.

People would bring in a Generac for repair. They would NOT give us service information or sell us parts.

We put them on the "f*ck you" list.

I bought a Honda 4500 watt generator 30 years ago. The only service it's required is the battery, the air filter and the oil.

As a friend of mine's brother-in-law succinctly put it, "Pay s*it, get s*it."

Captain Video decoder wheel:

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Have you tried any of Carlings distributors in CA ?

Arlen-

Take the old breaker into an Ace Hardware Store. You want something that has the same mounting and terminals, rated for 35 Amps and at least

The 43 "TRIP" Amps would be nice, but is not the most important parameter. Hopefully you do not normally run the generator close to its limit.

I would not be surprised if Ace had the exact breaker for around $25.

Fred

Please ... go to HD, get a Square D breaker and rig it up. Duct tape if you have to <G>

The government should make it a law the companies have to sell to individuals the repair parts and service manuals if they have them.

Years ago I was with a friend at a boat warehouse picking up some parts. A man wanted to buy a simple part,but they would not sell it to him as he was not a dealer. We bought the part for the man and sold it to him at our cost when he met us outside the warehouse. Most places would have doubled the price to him.

What really hirts is if a big company buys lots of items at high dollars and the manufactor goes out of busniness and they will not give or sell you a manual on the equipment when you buy it.

Mouser or Newark - in stock for under $30

I think Team Amazon is teaching all those "wholesale only" assholes a painful lesson.

Make that Mouser. Newark price is WAY higherr and no longer in stock. Mouser has 10 in the warehouse

If you are in ANY business, technically you can buy wholesale. I can't buy anything that requires a gas fitter's licence or a refrigeration licence (actually I can from a few wholesalers) but if I show my businesscard I can buy pretty much anything else I might need through my company. Automotive, small engine, electrical, plumbing, electronics, building supplies - just about anything partly duer to the structure / nature of my business and the way it is stated on my card.

Thanks Clare for that purposefully helpful lookup, where I may have made an inadvertent typo at some point, as it's AA2 (2 pole), not AA3 (3 pole): o AA2-B0-24-635-5D1-C

Mouser doesn't stock this part, but they do have a decent datasheet:

I will need to call Mouser during business hours for price & availability: o (800) 346-6873, (817) 804-3888

Unfortunately, Newark also says "Not Normally Stocked":

But at least they list a price, where, the going "fair" rate is about $100 o $ 92.45 onlinecomponents.com o $ 95.53 newark.com o $137.07 jackssmallengines.com o $233.45 ordertree.com

The question is mainly HOW do you guys get hard-to-find electrical parts.

BTW, the smoke is everywhere easily smelled, strongly in the air, with that classic wood burning smell, where the most recent time this happened was the Paradise Fire, where the smoke traveled hundreds of miles to blanket the Silicon Valley as this smoke is just now starting to do today with the picking up of the wind in the past few hours.

What "I" would do, in all likelihood, is CONVERT it to a standard more easily available part. Like a QOB. Just have to work out a mounting method.

Thanks for that purposefully helpful advice on considering this breaker: o Square D QOB235 2 Pole Circuit Breaker

It would be nice if the circuit breaker fits reasonably well in the front:

Where, in the rear, it's less important how things bolt together:

I thank you for not trolling, since it takes zero energy for the trolls to troll while you went to the trouble to find a decent fit, where what I'll do is trace out a paper cutout on the generator and take it with me to Home Depot or Ace to see if the $30 "Square D QOB235 2 Pole Circuit Breaker" can be retrofitted into that front panel hole.

Thanks for spending energy to bring items of value to the Usenet potluck.

That is a very normal form factor for industrial equipment.

This thread is about how to source hard-to-find electrical parts.

Given results below, the summary is things "can" be sourced. o But there must be a better way to source hard-to-find parts. For those times you want the part in your hand today.

While converting to a different part, particularly from a part that clearly failed prior to its 10,000 cycle rating, often works, and, I've often Rube Goldberg'd myself, given this is an electrical component attached to the mains, and given it has to be "to code", and given that it can kick in when I'm not home, my FIRST CHOICE (for the minor price difference of $30 for a different part & $100 for the right part anyway), is to try to source the correct part that has bolt holes in it, rather than an alternative that doesn't fit the weathertight outdoor generator enclosure attached to a huge source of propane:

Anyway, this thread is really not about the part per se, but how to SOURCE hard-to-find electrical parts, which is more of a TECHNIQUE than anything else.

On technique, I learned a lot about phone calls in the past few hours...

a. Part: Carling AA2-B0-24-635-5D1-C 35-amp circuit breaker b. Carling:

Now we get to local electrical parts suppliers... m. AlexanderElec: 831-457-3911 (left message) n. BayPower: 408-998-2980 (they don't stock, and can't order) o. CupertinoElec: 408-808-8000 (don't deal with individuals) p. Eckerman: 831-252-0987 (doesn't have any resource I don't have) q. EdgesElec: 408-293-5818 (don't stock, don't order) r. NicoElec: 408-446-4141 (left message) s. Pfeiffer: 408-436-8523 (they don't do residential) t. SprigElec: 408-298-3134 (transferred to sales, left message)

Where we already knew, from Generac, of these online sites: u. onlinecomponents.com $ 92.45 (stock situation unknown) v. jackssmallengines.com $137.07 (stock situation unknown) w. ordertree.com $233.45 (stock situation unknown)

And, of course, there is always the Internet: x. Amazon

Given those results, the summary is things "can" be sourced. o But there must be a better way to source hard-to-find parts. For those times you want the part in your hand today.

If you can live with a 30 or a 40, Grainger has them for $32. They might be able to order the 35 but you are out a few weeks I imagine. What do you have in the transfer equipment at the panel? If you have a

Look at "Panel, 6-32 mounting type"

If you want an uncommon part in your hand today, Rots of Ruck my friend. The only way around it is to "rube" a common part to fit or pay the exhorbitant prices charged by those who MAY have the part in stock because they "service" that particular device that needs the part.

The FACT that it is a "common industrial part" does not help the common man source one in an emergency.

That brings up another point though - were you not aware MONTHS ago that the genset was not functioning properly? I seem to remember you making a half-assed attempt at getting information about it WAYYYY back. The time to find out it needed that breaker , and sourcing it at leisure was THEN.

The generator has been running for 3 days now, where it quit sans warning earlier today, where a check of the 12VDC car battery showed it was down to

I know the battery was fully charged as PG&E had given us a day's notice, so I had charged it for that day until the power went out 3 days ago.

The 8KWH generator has been burning propane at about 50 gallons a day (near as I can tell from the gauge on the propane tank, which isn't all that easy to read accurately), and where I used a jumper cable from a nearby vehicle to debug that it was the battery and then, once debugged, I swapped in a second car battery to keep the electricity going today (and put the dead battery on a charger):

Where there are 4 fuses in each of those two panels, all of which are supposed to be the "uniquely sized" 600 Volt 2 Amp Buss SBS-2 fast acting fuses, where it currently has 4 and 5 amp Buss BBS-4 and Buss BBS-5 600 Volt fast acting fuses (which came with the transfer panel when I bought it) but where the 2AMP SBS-2 fuses have a similar (but not as bad) sourcing problem as does the circuit breaker.

This is, I think, OEM but based only on Ebay listings, which may be wrong: o

The house is 200 Amp service, where my understanding is that each half of the setup handles 100 Amps, but where I'm not sure why the original electrician put in 4amp and 5amp fuses when online, I see pictures of all sorts of sizes, but some of them are 2Amp fuses, so it's hard to tell what's the correct fuse amperage.

I don't see anything else inside the transfer panel that is fused.

Although the generator has the 35-amp circuit breaker & a fuse: