Modern locks are a pest

Yes, you actually are that terminal a f****it.

Because you didn't maintain it.

Because you didn't maintain it.

Because you didn't maintain it.

Nothing can be designed to survive fools like you that ignore the warning light and kill the engine, twice.

With lots replaced that did not need to be because you were too stupid to not maintain it.

Which you just ignore and killed the engine, twice.

And they don't have warning lights for the ignition, spark plugs, ignition leads, distributor, brakes, tyres etc etc etc.

And that's why you keep killing them stone dead.

Wrong, as always when you do it yourself.

We proved that that is a bare faced lie.

I have never had a car fail due to lack of oil.

Since you childishly repeat yourself, so will I: I have never had a car fail due to lack of oil.

You're missing he point. Why have the light if it warns you after the problem occurred?

Because you kill them by ignoring the engine temperature light until the engine seizes solid.

Nope, you are, as always.

It doesn't.

So, next time you have an issue with your car, call a ditch digger in to fix it.

The oil pressure light is there to tell you when you have *no* oil pressure. The system cannot differentiate between normal oil flow and aerated oil flow. An alert *driver* can tell the difference because of the noise made by an aerated or cavitating hydraulic system. That means of assessment is difficult within the confines of an engine due to extraneous noises also generated but it does work in, say, hydraulic power steering.

That is at odds with what the *car buyer* is willing to pay for.

He shortened its life by a considerable margin.

So your bicycle spends most of its life hanging up in your shed then.

Everything has a *design life*.

Not yours, it's always *parked*.

All cars have a light or a gauge, sometimes both. The warning light catches one's attention much more readily than a gauge dropping to zero.

Bullshit with stainless steel cutlery, glasses etc etc etc.

The bean counters would not agree with you. We wouldn't have seat belts, stability control and the like were it not for government mandate. The only car companies that willingly add on the extra gizmos are those in the upmarket luxury arena. What's more, the manufacturers of such gizmos do their testing and evaluation in these markets where price point isn't as critical.

The topic in question, in case it has slipped your mind, was mechanical contrivances, in this case - locks. Your usual sideshift isn't working.

They clearly did with the cars that have that.

How odd that we did with electric windows, central locking, auto opening hatch back doors, cruise controls, heated seats, air con, heating, dash cams, auto tilting wing mirrors, seats that automatically adjust to what particular drivers want, sat nav, radios, fancy suspensions etc etc etc.

That's bullshit too.

But have most of that stuff even on their low end cars.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Herein is where Rod loses the point.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

I was surprised that my late-1990s Peugeot 306 had an oil level gauge. OK it was the Meridian model which was possibly top of the range special edition (it had half-leather seats and maybe some other things that wouldn't be found on a standard model), but even so it was unexpected.

Obviously it only gives a sensible reading *before* the engine is running, and the needle returned to zero as soon as the engine was started. I got into the habit of adding it to the normal "cockpit drill" - checking fuel level, that ignition and oil pressure lights come on and then go out once the engine is started, that gear lever is in neutral (or else clutch is pressed) before starting - that you do automatically whenever you are about to set off.

Yeah, its not that unusual in frog cars for some reason.

Interesting, didn't think of that downside so not that useful if you develop a major oil leak with the engine running. Presumably that's part of the reason they arent common in non frog cars.

I don't do any of that myself. I do check the tyres with a quick walk around but even that is a bit hard to justify.

Agreed, but why put a 7 point lock on them? To protect the frame?

The other thing i don't like about them, they all seem to have a very wide frame, making the hole you can get through even smaller than usual. So now impossible to get a sofa into the house.

Presumably. Lot easier to just replace the door rather than the door and frame.

Never found that to be impossible, but no one has plastic doors here.

QED. I rest my case.

Fraid so.

That's bullshit too.

It wasn't done one by one.