Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:08:22 -0400:
In addition to 120 volts still going through the motor, I would think
that it would kind of get stuck since it only has half the voltage it
wants, which, can't be good for the motor, right?
PS: The lady texted me she will be home tomorrow, so I won't be able to
look at it until them. I'll also see if the next-door neighbor to her is
still pumping gray turbid water out of the brand new 520 foot well (it
was pumping onto the ground for a week).
How did this turn out for you Danny? I live on Clayton Road at 1000 foot e
levation, rent a home with 2 wells. One, the original is 150 ft deep. The
second added in the last drought is 350 feet deep. We have one 5000 gallon
tank which over the past 3 years I have lived here has maintained 4500 gal
lon fill (presume there is a float shut-off so the well does not overfill t
he tank). Noticed 3 months ago that the water level had dropped to 1500 g
allons and instituted drastic water conservation lifestyle changes. This mo
rning awoke to dry taps in the house. (with no water down 350 feet its a w
onder any trees survive... already lost and taken out 3 redwoods with their
shallow root system did not make it). There apparently are only 2 licensed
companies in Santa Clara Valley to deliver drinking quality water. Left m
essages with both this morning and no call back yet (now 1PM). I have an F
-350 and have hauled an 8000 lb trailer up and down clayton road (with trai
ler brakes) and know it can haul 18000 pounds up this grade. Hence I like
the idea of renting a 10,000 lb capacity dual axle trailer with brakes, buy
ing a water tank (assuming it costs close to the est. $400, getting a meter
from SJWC and a water pump to transfer from trailer to home storage tank.
Five trips every 1-3 months in a trailer rented for the day sounds pretty
cost effective, and self sufficient. Do you think others would need it up
here? How to reach besides door to door? Not looking to make bank, just
defray the cost of trailer rental and tank purchase, and do some good for t
As mentioned, have not heard back from the water delivery services, but rea
d on another board that it might cost $1000 for 5000 gallons of drinking wa
ter delivered. (did you find that to be the rate?). If so, it makes the
trailer pulled by my own truck sound viable, and might offer a great deal t
o a few neighbors.
So I have a few questions you might have some insights into...
What price per 1000 gallons of drinking water did you find for delivery ser
Thoughts on attaching a tank to a rental trailer (8000 lb of water has huge
momentum in any sudden maneuver, deer in the road kind of thing would make
me a wary driver even with secure attachment... and would never transport
less than topped off tank otherwise the sloshing on acceleration or braking
would be problematic, the tank would not have baffles).
In the month(s) between fill-up what is the best way(s) to fight algae grow
th in the tank without making water thereafter unpotable in that tank?
How will you clean the trailer so that the water remains potable in
transport? It would be naive to assume that the trailer will be clean. Look
into Ozone generators to keep bacteria down in your storage tank. There will
be some leaching of chemicals from the tank's walls so you may want to test
Your local Ag Ext. agent may have advice on water tanks.
He's got a 5K tank and wants to trailer 1K at a time. He's intends to
buy the 1K tank. He'll need to clean it before each use of the tank. If he
used it twice in a day I think it would be ok to not clean between loads. He
needs to buy the necessary cleaning gear and be sure that the tanks are easy
to clean .
On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 12:48:51 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
One other thing that might be worth considering is that El Nino
is brewing in the Pacific at this very moment and it's a big one.
That will almost certainly put an end to the CA drought in the
next few months, so in the range of solutions, he might want
to factor that in. Or maybe secure the tanks so they don't slide
away with the mud....
Can only hope but while it's possible to replenish some of the surface
water, it'll take years rather than months for groundwater to recover
and likely some areas have been so depleted they never will; at least in
practical time spans of just a few years.
The areas in the Central Valley that have subsided (some places by feet,
not just inches) are now more compacted such that renewal will be
limited even if rains/snowmelts do return such that regeneration will be
slower if not permanently lost...it's not a pretty thought.
It'd been one thing to have had the drought in the area 1000 yr ago when
it wasn't populated; it's something else again now that it has been so
thoroughly pumped out of ground reservoirs to boot...
If only the know-it-alls would have added to the water storage, which has
not been increased over a period of time the population has doubled or
tripled. No matter how many times they have been told . . .
Only would be successful in delaying the inevitable; their current water
usage patterns aren't sustainable in that they're outstripping
groundwater reservoir longterm regeneration rates...without significant
changes in usage efficiencies and patterns it's only a matter of time...
I can't understand the california mindset -- still watering lawns, etc.
I recall talking with a friend (from CA) decades ago in school wrt the
water issue, there (water had never been a problem in any of the places
I'd lived: "God waters the grass -- and, too often, at that!").
I recall her mentioning "yellow is mellow but brown goes down" as the
"manual conservation mechanism". Did this attitude change sometime in
the recent past? Or, are folks willing to reduce *flushes* but still
intent on lush greenscapes?
Yup. People tend to think all natural resources are infinite.
Then, when there's a shortage, it's "How did this happen??"
Some years ago, I read an article (that I have frequently sought in
the years since) that addressed "mineral" resources. The author
went through a list of estimated planet-wide quantities of each.
Then, tried to estimate the resources *remaining*.
The only item that stuck in my mind was copper. He claimed that
of all the copper there ever is and ever *will* be (until a new
planet is formed), 1/4 of it is in current use (in our homes,
cell phones, computers, power lines, etc.); another 1/4 of it
is buried in land fills (because we never thought it important
enough to "rescue", until recently); another 1/4 remains relatively
easily harvestable in the mantle; and the final 1/4 is too widely
distributed to make harvesting (mining) practical.
When you consider how the "in use" and "in land fills" resources
represent such a small, recent portion of human activity, you have
to wonder how long the remaining 1/4 will last!
Imagine what this must be like for some of the scarcer resources.
It's always easier to consume than it is to create!
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