Moment like this, would be nice if they shared. I doubt they will.
With five miles distance, and 2,000 feet elevation, I doubt anyone will trench and put in public water to these homes.
Wonder if someone can drill down then over, and put in pumping stations.
It's called groundwater depletion. It's the result of pumping too much water from the aquifer. The capacity of the earth to support life is being exceeded.
trader_4 wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 04:41:12 -0700:
Both pumps have separate protection systems, as I can easily see that this old pump setup "trips" to "red" when the pump prematurely shuts.
I'm going to take that advice, especially for the "old" well.
Here's a pic of the 4 "control" boxes for the old well:
The same set of four boxes are there for the new well:
I forget what the four boxes do though. One is the dedicated circuit breaker for the pump, the other is the no-load trip control for when the well is out of water. The third, I think, is a timer, which is what I should lengthen to allow the well to refill, and I forget what the fourth box does.
Pat wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:43:28 -0400:
That's interesting, as I have no way of knowing how deep the neighbor's wells are. So, your point is valid that the "rest period" I gave the well isn't necessarily a rest period if the neighbors are pumping at the same time.
I do not know how fast water moves through rock, so a lot would depend on how localized the "cone of depression" is:
Googling, I found that diagram in this document: Ground Water and the Rural Homeowner, by the USGS
This is a valid point, which I am looking up to learn more about.
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:13:59 -0400:
Ooops. This is the correct picture of my fate being determined by the level of this yellow block of wood:
I have to coerce flickr into allowing me a URL of just the picture (instead of an entire GUI, which flickr wants you to go to), & I goofed up on that one. I apologize.
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:13:59 -0400:
I've never understood how *any* water would be found on top of a hill, but, in reading up on it, apparently it looks like this:
The water kind of follows the countour lines, but there may be a layer of impervious soil preventing it from going deeper as it 'runs' down the hill to the lakes & rivers below.
Are those 200 sprinklers to irrigate a cash crop?
Because if it's just for landscaping, I would think you'd get little sympathy or understanding from most of us reading about your situation.
For the pool, at least there are covers for pools that limit evaporation. Do you even have one of those?
I've lived in two story homes most of my life. They make a lot of sense for people under the age of about 60. Our house is a "raised ranch" with family room, utilities, and spare room on the lower level. With arthritis in my knees and my wife's heart condition, we are happy to stay on the one level most of the time.
Why would that be? They are built for "work" use in a truck. I'm a farm b oy fro wayi back and don't ever recall us losing an axle or tranny even dri ving the old junkers we used to (first one was a 34 chev 1 1/2 ton. I have been hauling overloads of firewood on my 62 1/2 ton, 68 1/2 ton (both junk ed due to worn out motors) and currently 89 F150 since 1976 with no tranny/ axle problems.
Mountain roads? Spent two years hauling up to 7ton loads up down a 7 mile mountain grade with 8 and 9% grades with a KB5, no problems.
Harry K
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:04:23 -0400:
Actually, I should be clearer that the *current* zoning is 40 acre lots:
But, I think that huge minimum lot size is there only to prevent *any* more building from going on in these mountains.
In reality, most people have half that size lots although there are some that are 77 acres, and others that are as small as 5 or 6 acres (probably nothing smaller than that).
I cured my arthritis, heart and Type II diabetes. Check out what this cardiologist has to say:
Dr Davis literally saved my life!
Is the other end of the rope tied onto a float?
That might work. I learned about altruism early. We had a shallow well, as did the neighbor. When his well went dry, my father and I helped him dig a new one. When ours went dry and I was down in the cellar with a sledge hammer sinking a point, I don't remember Sandy even showing up with a cold beer.
Said he's five miles distant, and 2,000 feet elevation from the muni water system.
truck. I'm a farm boy fro wayi back and don't ever recall us losing an axle or tranny even driving the old junkers we used to (first one was a 34 chev 1 1/2 ton. I have been hauling overloads of firewood on my 62 1/2 ton, 68 1/2 ton (both junked due to worn out motors) and currently 89 F150 since 1976 with no tranny/axle problems.
up down a 7 mile mountain grade with 8 and 9% grades with a KB5, no problems.
I'm glad you've had a good experience. Mine, not as good. I seldom do hills, but each of my vehicles has needed a TX or clutch at some point.
See these diagrms of rurl wells
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Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:07:43 -0400:
Yes. It has, literally, a chlorox bottle on one float, and, IIRC, a more standard float on the other. I think one is to shut off the house booster when emptying (for fire) and the other is to shut off the well pump when filling.
I climbed on top of a neighbor's tank farm, and snapped a lot of pictures, because mine, with two shared tanks, seems to be the oddity.
The neighbor's whom I climbed in had six 5,000 gallon tanks, all hooked up in series, but with the last two reserved for fire alone (plus a 20,000 gallon cistern for fire).
I snapped a bunch of pictures but can't post them right now as I have to run (maybe it will be a different thread as this is getting a bit off topic from the "trucking" aspect).
Can you cut a deal with the folk with deeaper wells or form a co op for a better deeper well? Might be money from the State/Federal farm bureaus.
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:07:43 -0400:
Yes. This is not "my" tank, it's a neighbor's tank, but we looked at his tank today and realized he was being shorted by 1,000 gallons, so, we lifted the float, and his tank started gushing out.
Here's the lifted float:
And, here's the water flow (way better than mine!):
Compare that float and water flow with this neighbor's float:
And, when we lifted his float, this was the water flow:
Of course, lifting the float on this 20K gallon cistern didn't do anything, so, we found out that one residence water supply had a problem for firefighting (their water was the dribbling float):
CRNG wrote, on Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:28:54 -0500:
That means this 500 gallon spare tank "could" last someone ten days:
Based on the very helpful suggestions in this thread, we're planning on tying that 100 pound plastic tank in a pickup or trailer.
The key question is what kind of pickup/trailer can haul the weight that we will have access to.
Since the hints here are to fill it to the brim, the tank has the number 685 on it, so, we assume it holds 685 gallons max:
Roughly, 685 gallons x 8 pounds ~= 5,500 pounds, plus another hundred pounds for the tank itself, is about 2-1/2 tons.
So, we need to find a truck (or trailer) that can haul 2.5 tons up a windy road from this brand new fire hydrant:
Any suggestions on the pickup truck given those new numbers?
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