Hard water - not filtered by water board?

Oct 12, 2017 162 Replies

Yes, similar to that. My parents' kettle didn't even shoot the lead out of the kettle. I think the difference with theirs was that the handle was solid Bakelite right from the switch/socket/element connector on the back to the point where it attached near the spout, rather than having metal rods and only the handle in Bakelite. I'm wondering whether theirs even had a switch or whether you needed to switch it off at the wall socket - not sure about that.

Certainly it had a proprietary mains plug/socket like the K2 rather than IEC C13/C14 which I tend to refer to as "kettle connectors" because *modern* kettles have them (as well as most other devices like PC PSUs). As a matter of interest, what's the name for the "clover-leaf" 3-pin plug/socket that's used for some laptop-charger mains leads.

no they don't break, they just get the element or the sides coated with limescale.

The question still stands.

I've heard it said that some have magnets that "line up the water molecules" so they don't deposit on the pipes and on kettle elements. Or some such pseudo-scientific guff.

Flushing toilets with hard water does leave limescale on the surfaces.

my father used the same kettle in Edinburgh for 20 years - inside it looked like new.

I would imagine "the" Newcastle (on Tyne) rather than the lesser-known Newcastle-under-Lyme. Though I wonder where N-o-T gets it water from and whether their water *is* (moderately) hard.

It's surprising how often I find that well-known towns and cities have much smaller counterparts (typically a small village or hamlet) elsewhere in the UK. Obviously there will be places in the USA which have names that reflect the place where immigrant came from in their original country.

Somewhere that I've lived had a district called California - I used to see it on the bus destination blinds. Not sure where it was, because it's not the one listed in

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They might be able to line up the calcium and the carbonate ions, whether that's possible when ions are in solution I don't know. And even if you can, what strength magnet you'd need I don't know either.

There's another in England, one each in Scotland and N.Ireland and several in Eire.

I used to go through Bermuda occasionally.

I know of two of those and one in Wales and one in NI.

Not bad for brown ale making either!

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Neutralises calcium ions somehow so they don't form calcium carbonate?

That would depend on the degree of hardness and how often you clean the bowl.

On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:18:17 +0100, "NY" coalesced the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension...

IEC C5, I like them and think they sould be more widespread.

Bod has not got out of the southern bubble for 40 years. Life begins and ends in the shithole of the south.

If you neutralise them, then:

1) a current must flow, where does that come from? 2) the now neutral calcium atoms would immediately react with the water to produce calcium hydroxide and hydrogen. So you're back where you started: with calcium ions in solution.

And what can happen if you don't...

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On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:22:40 +0100, charles coalesced the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension...

I don't think there is any hard tap-water anywhere in Scotland. I bet the supermarkets sell the same range of softening products as they do in London, that's certainly the case here in Manchester.

Dunno, but it's called an electrolytic device ...

Indeed - it's beyond my O-level chemistry to explain, but people seem to think it works and they're probably not all snake-oil enthusiasts.

Again people seem to be writing about the construction of kettles 10 or

15 years ago. Most modern kettles have a different form of element and are constructed differently. If you read some of the Amazon reviews on mid priced kettles a common complaint is that they start leaking.

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