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America. You gotta love it. You (or I) could do the exact same thing. It is all within the law, but just not with in the realm of thinking of some people. But we CAN do it.

Steve

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Desert Traveler

That's business. The business person who is more loyal to his community than he is to his balance sheet doesn't last long.

Reply to
jemmy ducks

Yes, we _can_ do it. However, the costs involved in setting it up are substantial in contrast to my company's income whereas they are nearly unnoticeable on the balance sheet of a company the size of Halliburton or Xerox, to name just two that are doing the Bermuda (no)Tax scam.

Bob

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'nuther Bob

Are you for real? Do you think people will really believe your liberal bullshit? Take your political garbage somehwere else punk!

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mike

Well, Bob, I currently have a CFP (certified financial planner) who handles all my investment, insurance and accounting affairs. I am very happy with him. I live a very comfortable lifestyle which is funded and in trust. It is sufficient for the rest of my life, and I am 55. My children and grandchildren will be taken care of also. A Bermuda Corp would not be the best way to go for me right now, as I currently concentrate on short term second deeds of trust that bring me between 14 and 20%. Why get complicated? Or greedy? BUT, I could do it tomorrow if I wanted to. You see, Bob, it is all up to me, just like it is all up to YOU.

I pay my taxes. Every one that I have to pay, that is. On every tax I pay, I understand how the tax system works, and can either pay it, or structure things to lessen the tax or not have to pay it. It's all about educating yourself, Bob, and paying someone to advise you insuch matters. Lots of books at the public library for free that will tell anyone how to reduce their taxes LEGALLY. Not one of those "You don't have to pay income tax" books, but real books about the tax laws.

You seem to have confused my statement with a diatribe. Everything I have done, and everything Mr. Cheney has done could be done by anyone. Even you, Bob. It's all about choices, Bob. So quit whining and complaining if you feel your life is not in the order that you think it should be. It's your fault and no one elses. Quit envying everyone else. As it is, you are a very rich man. Just compare yourself to the bum in the gutter instead of the millionaires, and your perspective will change. Are you looking at what you have or what you don't have?

Be thankful.

Steve

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Desert Traveler

That wasn't the point of my original post. The point is that what Halliburton and other companies is doing is not right. They are moving off shore just to avoid paying US taxes. That means that you and I get to pay more taxes. Nice system, eh ?

I think you listened to one too many Tony Robbins tapes.

We're not talking about my life, Mr. Pompous. We're talking about US Corporations moving off shore to avoid paying taxes. You made the suggestion that this is economically feasible for small business or individuals. This tax dodge is not available to individuals and it is not economically feasible for small businesses.

Why don't you look into the tax code before you start foolishly suggesting that individuals can take advantage of it. Why don't you have a look at the costs before you suggest that small businesses can make use of it.

Wrong thread.

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'nuther Bob

He just does what he's told. As for Dad, why he was kept "out of the loop," so he didn't get even that much consideration (maybe if he had run a baseball team things would have been different).

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jemmy ducks

I think it's the poor "work ethic" of US unions that drove them to this. Layoff 500 and replace with 50???? I've been around a union shop for 12 years and they will not bust ass. They want everything but don't want to give anything

J
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JeffC

Some clueless dipshit wrote just before I plonked him:

And your point is? Other than kicking and screaming like a kid that didn't get its way, what's not right? Is it against the law? Or is it just "not right" because you didn't do it, or didn't get in on the deal. Get over it.

If you had half a brain and stopped kicking and screaming long enough, you could avail yourself of tax shelters, trusts, sheltered retirement plans, Roth IRAs, and multiple things that would be tremendously advantageous to you. Just because you are too stupid of lazy to find out about them doesn't mean that "It's not right!" when someone else does it. Get your head out of your ass and go do it yourself and quit whining.

It's just not right. It's just not right. (and on and on ad infinitum) What is that going to get you? Were you born stupid, or did you just practice a lot?

Steve

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Desert Traveler

Not only does Desert Traveler like to ignore them, he likes to exploit them and completely disregard their moral turpitude. He's got his, why should he give a shit about anyone else or about making this entire country a better place for everyone, not just himself?

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xymergy

Labor jobs have been leaving this country for a long time. Now many white collar jobs are also being exported. The end result will be that the world will truly be a free trade zone as the job shortage here reduces wages to average out to wages and benefits in the rest of the world.

This is rather like water finding the lowest level. The water in the US is high but after a while unless you own one of the super coperates the US will have a wage COMPETIVE with India etc.

Just keep blowing smoke up your ass and smile as your and your childrens jobs relocate. But I am not likely to live another 20 years and I have no children so my interest is academic.

Louis

Reply to
stan100

Actually, no, I've just "got mine."

Reply to
xymergy

How about this: They cut lumber in the USA, ship it out of the country to have it milled, then ship it back to sell... and it still comes out cheaper than milling in the USA.

Bob

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'nuther Bob

Are they going to remove the waving US flag and "Made in America" text from their web site?

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Reply to
Yen

Would anybody notice? Would anybody care?

Steve

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Desert Traveler

Sounds like a perfect description of Socialism, to me.

Reply to
Brent Geery

I would notice, I would care. Make your stuff wherever you want, earn the best profit you can, but don't try to bolster your sales by saying made in USA it its not made in USA.

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Yen

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