Can you still stop a car by turning off the ignition

Both of our vehicles have a steering wheel lock that engages when you turn the motor off . I'll have to check but I think both vehicles only activate that lock when you pull the key out . Yup , the '99 4Runner works that way , but the lock is apparently malfunctioning on the '86 GMC pickup . I'll need to look at that , I know it has one because I've had it apart .

Our 2 cars have key-in-slot no push button - - and I like it. ... all the other many computer-ish gizmo gadgets .. I could do without. Engine Start-Stop for one .. John T.

What cars still have carburetors? I thought all have used fuel injectors for several decades. Better mileage and less pollution.

I've tried wine made from the grapes used to make raisins. Common in some regions of Italy. For example, amarone della valpolicella. Much too sweet and jammy for my palate!

What does this have to do with Home repair? Why are you posting off topic stuff?

My step-father had a car, probably GM**, about that age, and someone tried to steal it by ripping out the steering column lock I put the lock back in and almost had everythign working, but couldn't quite get it right. So be careful. Of course you've had yours apart once and mine may have been damaged when they ripped it apart.

I'm also thinking aobut when the police stop a car and tell him to turn off the engine. Driver can turn it off but it's not obvious where the "key" is, and until the cops search him, he can turn the car back on and rabbit. He can even throw the "key" in the car somewhere where they won't find for a while. I would think the police hate thes new-fangled things.

Key is a rather generic term these days. I can start my car using the phone or a credit card sized "key" in my wallet.

I do have a physical key that is in the fob in case of a dead battery. I'd have to search for the hole to put it in, somewhere behind the handle. Never looked for it

I'll bet you never had that problem when younger...

I would think a guy like you would have a VPN for such occasions. Although maybe such occasions are too rare to be worth the money??

It says: Can You Stop Your Moving Car with the Push To Start Button?

Fortunately, you don’t have to personally find out what happens when you press the push to start button while driving your car. Professionals tried this on empty roads. They drove their vehicles at different speeds and recorded what happened when they deliberately pressed the push-button start. The effect varied according to how fast the car was going at the time. [Doesnt' this assume that all makes and years work the same? It seems unlikely that with something so new, goverments have made regulations that makers have to follow.]

Very Low Speeds If the car travels at a low speed, it will turn off its engine if you press the push to start button. Thankfully, the slow movement makes it easier to retain control of the vehicle.

Some models with keyless ignition will turn off their engine when you use the push to start button while moving at five miles per hour or at a similarly slow speed. It’s a safety feature that helps prevent accidents.

Medium Speeds Keyless ignition-equipped cars moving at higher speeds will generally keep moving even if you accidentally press the push to start button.

However, if you hold the push to start button down, you can turn off the engine even when the car’s moving at moderate speeds.[What Clare said.] You might even have to deliberately do this during an emergency, although you should only do so as a last resort. There are better ways to stop your vehicle than mashing the push to start button.

Highway Speeds Highways require you to maintain high speeds. So, what happens if your finger lands on the push to start button by mistake while cruising on highways?

Thankfully, nothing will happen. Your car will continue going down the highway without slowing down. Its engine will continue running. [Well, they could have set it to slow down gradually. With microprocessor controlled ignition, they can do anything they want. So don't be so thankful.]

Much like what they do at medium speeds, vehicles with keyless ignition will keep running at higher speeds despite the push to start button getting pressed. Furthermore, they will warn you that they won’t shut down their engine while moving at high speed. [A lot of good that warning will do you.]

While accidentally pressing the push to start button while driving your car will usually cause no problems, avoid doing it as much as possible. There’s a low but non-zero chance that essential systems like power steering and power brakes might turn off if you push the button. If you lose those systems without warning, you might soon lose control of your car and end up in an accident.

Try These to Stop Your Push Button Ignition Car [although I don't think any of these are possible when being kidnapped. Cautious buyers should order the Kidnap Package when getting a new car.]

Imagine the following scenario: You’re driving on the road when your car abruptly starts acting up. Perhaps it accelerates without warning and outside your control. You must halt your runaway vehicle as quickly as possible.

In such an emergency, you might think to use the push-to-start button to turn off the engine and stop your car. However, resist pressing it immediately. There are safer and more effective ways to stop your vehicle that you must try before resorting to the button.

Put Your Car in Neutral The first thing you should try is to shift gears to neutral. It decouples the wheels from the engine. Without the power transmitted from the engines, the wheels won’t spin for long. [I think that is an exaggeration. Even just taking one's foot off the acceelerator lets the car continue for a long time, even with engine braking. In neutral there is no engine braking.]

Putting your keyless ignition-equipped car in neutral is the simplest and easiest approach to stopping the vehicle during uncontrollable acceleration. You can do it in both manual and automatic cars.

Gently Apply the Brakes Does your car continue to move after you shift to neutral gear? Slowly apply light pressure on the brake pedal. Without the power transmitted from the engines, the drive wheels will stop when you engage the brakes. Avoid hitting the brakes hard to reduce the risk of accidentally locking them, although an anti-lock braking system usually minimizes that issue. Release the Gas Pedal

Are you driving an older model with a keyless ignition? If your car’s throttle gets stuck in the open position, release the gas pedal to close the throttle valve. [Shouldn't you do this FIRST?]

Raise your foot from the throttle pedal. Without the pressure applied by your foot, the pedal will return to its standard position. [Not if it's stuck. In the previous paragraph he said it was stuck.] The throttle should close.

If you drive a newer model, you can skip this step. Finally, Press the Push to Start Button

Even if the previous steps fail to stop your car, they usually reduce its speed to something slower and safer. They make the last resort more effective.

Now you can press the push to start button, which turns the engine off if you’re going slow enough. Without the power from the engine to drive its wheels, your car will eventually stop moving.

Other Tips If your car has an automatic transmission, avoid shifting gears to parking after turning off the engine. Instead, keep it neutral. [WHY?????]

Some cars with push to start buttons also come with an ignition key. You can shut down the engine by turning the key.

Warn Other Drivers You’re not the only one on the road. Other drivers are usually also present, and pedestrians might be crossing the road. You want to avoid any accidents while trying to stop your car.

Inform other drivers about your predicament by flashing your car’s hazard lights and using the car horn. While the sudden light show and honking might annoy them, they’ll appreciate the heads-up about the potential danger. [Because gas was so much more expensive in Manhattan and there are no gas stations on the east side of the island anyhow, twioe I ran out of gas on the Manhattan Bridge, heading for Brooklyn. One time a guy behind me helped me push it 10 or 20 feet across the crest. As I coasted across Tillary Street, heaing for the SAEEWAY** gas station, I blew my horn. The cop directing traffic on one of those occasions didn't say anything. Looking at the map, I see the gas station is gone now. What will I do next time? **They had called it SAFEWAY but the supermarket complained and they had to change their name to SAEEWAY. ]

Like any other feature, use the push to start button properly. Only use it to start the engine while your car isn’t moving. Avoid using it to stop your vehicle, even in an emergency. If you must use it, follow the recommended procedure to ensure you successfully stop your car. Dangers of Push to Start Button

While the feature is convenient, forgetting to turn off the engine in a vehicle with push button ignition comes with risks. These include carbon monoxide buildup, vehicle damage, physical injury, and higher chances of theft.

Carbon Monoxide Buildup Some newer vehicle models have noiseless engines, making it easy to forget you switched off the engine when using a keyless ignition system. This can be dangerous, as carbon monoxide may build up and even seep into your home.

More than 30 people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning since keyless-ignition vehicles became available in 2006. [Yeah, but were they in noiselss engine cars, and was that the reason? ]

Vehicle Damage and Physical Injury Similarly, forgetting to turn off the car and shifting the gear to “Park” may cause it to roll and crash. [I thought in traditional cars, one could probably put the lever in Park but the park-pawl would not engage if the car was moving over a certain speed. Surely they haven't removed that feature?????] In the worst-case scenario, your vehicle may cause injury to pedestrians.

Increased Risk of Theft Push-to-start buttons are easier to hack than traditional car keys, making your vehicle more prone to theft. Some thieves use artificial intelligence systems to pick the signal from the key fob and start the car. [Again with the claim that it's AI. Yes, they can get the "fob" to transmit the code and they can retransmit that to the car, but that is NOT AI.]

Touche Ed P! I was lured by hubops' post into replying. My bad. But of course, the OP's post about escaping from a kidnapper while hostage in a moving car also has nothing to do with home repair.

Horrors! Off topic stuff!

BTW, tragic as it is to see grapes made into raisins, we should not mourn too much. There are loads of grapes out there and grape wine is mixed with loads of other alcoholic drinks I think because it's cheaper than what it is mixed with. I forget the details.

Opera Browser has a free VPN.

And it works very well . Only downside is that you must have a browser window open to use it . Not a problem for me because I leave the browser and email programs running , but my wife closes her browser when not in use .

My ex-gf left her car here when we went somewhere and when we got back her fob wouldn't open the car. She'd run a business for 20+ years and seemed totally confident so I was surprised when she didn't know what to do and didn't hear or, then, believe me when I kept telling her there was a key in the fob. Finally she broke down and let me find it and when the key opened the car, the car started fine.

Very interesting. I use firefox and it has a VPN, but a) I coudln't make it work, or b) maybe it cost money. Well there's a free add-on now, but maybe there was not in 2018?

So back in 2018 I tried two famous vpn's (???? and Nord) and couldn't get either to work. I was doubting my abilities. But then Express VPN worked on the first try. it does cost money, and I only use it when I'm not in the USA. And it has an android VPN for the same money.

But you have to have a browser window open to go to a webpage, anyhow.

Are you thinking about preventing email from being hacked? Or worse yet, Usenet posts?

Me too.

Very cautious woman. What's she got to hide?

It had to do with cars, which topic was annexed years ago, I think.

and anything is better than politics.

And I think Ed was being sarcastic.

I don't know.

My first car, and my late father's car, both had carburettors. The later was running a decade ago, till I decommissioned it. Me, I switched to diesel, till I switched back to gasoline 6 years ago. I don't think there are new cars sold with carburettors, but old cars it is quite possible.

Chatgpt says carburettors were phased out in Europe in the early 1990's. Eastern Europe?

I have Tor, and I can coax it to use exit nodes in a defined country. But that takes some time and work ;-)

Anyway, I hate sites that use geoblocking. Just say "we don't sell to your country", but allow browsing.

Suppose the accelerator pedal "by wire" has jammed at top speed.

:-)

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If the accelerator is jammed, the engine will self destroy if you put it in neutral.

Hey, they speak of "throttle valve", ie, carburettors :-D

I think it would destroy the transmission.

Long text :-)

Thanks.