saw a news story about the danger of keyless ignitions, seems a small
subset of the drivers often forget to actually hit the start/stop button
to actually turn the car off. One woman said that this happened to her
and she woke up to her kids screaming headache, deciding to take the kid
to the ER she opened the garage door and was overwhelmed by the fumes
after having left the car run for 5 hours.
Aside from the fact that this indicates a pretty bad problem with
isolating the garage from the house properly or that in five hours she
never heard the car running, the real question is: could a car run for 5
hours in a "sealed" garage?
I would expect the car might overheat or run out of oxygen. So, how long
could you expect a car to run in a "sealed" garage?
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:08:25 -0700, Malcom Mal Reynolds
Sounds like something I would do.
No one died in this case, right?
I don't think they are really sealed. Cracks all around the garage
door. Ventilation in the attic space above the garage. That it ran
for 5 hours hints at that.
I'll admit that CO2 is heavier than O2, so maybe that is a factor.
Maybe the room will tend to fill from the floor up with CO2, minus
what leaks out past the doors.
CO is lighter than O2 but not much and cars don't make much CO
I don't think it will overheat when idling. It must generate 20 times
as much heat at 60MPH. Cars use very little gas when idling.
I have a garage but there is never a car in it. That is my shop.
We wanted to buy the foreclosure next door for my shop so my wife
could put he car in the garage but it went for more than I was willing
to pay. The garage is detached.
On 3/29/2016 3:28 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
My car beeps as soon as you close a door if the fob is not in the car.
If the car stopped as soon as you removed the fob, it would be annoying
as hell. OTOH, considering the sophistication of electronics in car, it
would be easy to start a 5 or 10 minute countdown when the fob is
removed from the car. That gives you enough time to rub back into the
house when you forget your lunch. My remote start has a 10 minute time
On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 3:28:47 PM UTC-4, email@example.com wrote:
Maybe they leave the fob in the car, since the car is in the garage.
Even then seems it would be a good idea to have the software start
alerting the driver that the car is idling after say 15 mins and if
there is no response in another 5, to shut it off. But then I suppose
you'd have some people complaining because they want to run the car
to use an inverter in a power failure or similar.
No, no, no. The problem here is stupidity. I've always thought stupid should be painful, but unfortunately it was only
painful for her offspring.
No matter how idiot-proof one makes something there will always be a higher grade of idiot to overcome the design.
On 3/29/2016 4:37 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I read that years ago, people would leave the
key in the switch, figuring no one would steal
anything as large as a car. And, so, there was
plenty of car theft. They put a warning ding on
keys, to remind people not to leave the key in
the switch. Crooks would stand around parking
lots and listen for the warning ding when people
stepped out. How true is this? Don't know.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
I remember back in the late fifties and early sixties GM, maybe other makes as well, had an ignition switch that the driver
could remove the key with the engine still running. The driver could shut the engine off at a later time without the key. At
that point no key was needed to start or stop the engine until such time that the owner wanted to "lock" the ignition. I
didn't hear of any mass deaths because previous generations seemed to be more intelligent.
This is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.
This is what happens when everyone is moved up to the next grade because of the "No one left behind" edict.
This is what happens when liars and idiots are elected to public office!
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