Anyone every read Ecotopia? Lord Fouls Bane by Donaldson another
worth a look. Both wonderful but a word of warning. Lord Foul is the
first of a series of eight. In the end only women ..... Nah....check
them out from your local library.
"Tell the lords in Riverstone there is no hope for the land."
It is never the animal's fault. Never. It is always the fault of the people
who leave animals out to bark incessantly. We have a neighbor who constantly
gets puppies, then leaves them outside day and night with no shade, no water,
and the poor thing whines and screams all day and night. One day I taped a note
to their door with duct tape and I included my phone number. The guy called me
to yell that the tape took the paint off his door. I said that's horrible,
would you like me to paint your door for you?
He gave me all his credentials and where he works as a manager of an auto parts
store (whoa) and said his wife, this or that...bla....
He then gave me their phone number and said to call if the dog makes noise.
That very night at 4am the dog was non-stop screaming. I called them and asked,
"don't you hear that..." She hung up on me and they got rid of the dog the next
People like that shouldn't have dogs, they are too irresponsible. It's never
the dog's fault if it barks 24/7.
Oop. I'm fervently opposed to the death penalty for any living being. Oh well,
we almost agreed! I do feel we living in a very uncivilized society in the
United States. The level of sophistication is low. The hinterland folk have
toofusses, the northers have "not on my property," and the souf have guns under
their jackets. It's a rough society. I liken it to barbaric times with
technology...what with the country only being a few hundred years old and all.
Well....I think all it takes if for a person to be bothered by someone
else's noise, and maybe they themselves become more considerate. I'm
apparently a light sleeper, so I assume everyone else is, too. I recently
began playing bass guitar again, after a 15 year hiatus. I wrote down my
phone number on some pieces of paper, visited each neighbor, and told them
"I really have no idea how far the sound carries when I practice. Please
call me if it bothers you". No calls yet.
I guess I'm a socialist. I care about the good of the many. What an asshole
No, that's how it is supposed to be done. That's what I was saying about this
tree being taken down without a warning to the neighbor. I didn't say they
could not take it down, only that it would have been thoughtful to make Toni
aware of it so she could plan for the noise, not wonder what was going on, not
throw a party that day, whatever. I do the same thing.
When we had the pool built, I also went to all the neighbors and told them for
the next week or so the noise level will be high. They all thanked me and went
on with life. When we put up a ten foot satellite dish in the back I went
around and asked all the neighbors if they minded because till my gardens got
bigger, they'd all see it. It's little nice things. Not huge things.
Oh well, I am a nightmare to live next to according to someone who doesn't know
Did I get this right?....The damn dog barks but it is the owners fault and
not the fault of the actual dog doing the barking?.....and with a hopeful
spirit you someday hope that people with whom you presumably simply don't
approve of will get killed simply on your whim? So may we presume that you
value trees and dogs more than you actually value humans? I guess people
pick their own values, too bad you picked yours.....Rod
Actually, I think killing the dog is the way to go, because of the misery it
may cause the owner and its family. But, try and get people to agree with
THAT idea. Not easy. As far as "people I don't approve of", the word "you"
(meaning me) doesn't fit. ***NOBODY*** approves of humans of allow their
dogs to bark endlessly. Yes, that's an absolute statement, and is inarguably
true, all the time, everywhere. Period.
Now, if you have some spare time, conduct a survey. I already know the
results, but you'll want to find out for yourself. Ask 100 people "If, for
one day, you could pick one unbelievably obnoxious neighbor, take a rifle
and shoot that person dead, and know that there would be no legal
consequences, would you do it?" I promise you that the results would shock
you. If you asked the question face to face, at least half would respond
"yes". If you conducted it anonymously, on paper, I think more like 80%
would say "yes".
Nah....I'm just an HONEST observer of human nature.
All day long, farmers legally eliminate animals that are destroying crops or
livestock. Could be dogs, deer, coyotes. Do those farmers need help, too?
How 'bout noisy activities like lawn mowing, using the electric hedge
trimmer, etc. when you know the inconsiderate a-holes are sleeping? Then
when they freak out, tell them that's exactly how you feel when their dog
goes on a bark-a-thon. Way more fun than killing the dog -- the idjit
neighbors would probably just get another that might bark even more.
Noise-for-noise falls into the category of "pissing contest". So does the
potato idea. Much better to confront the offense in a timely manner.
-- spud_demon -at- thundermaker.net
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