Try that sometime and let me know how it goes, OK?
Quite a few animal control employees don't know how to read the riot act to
an irresponsible dog owner. So, they issue warnings instead of following the
letter of the law. In many municipalities, the law says that the dog owner
gets three "tickets" or whatever they're called, with steadily increasing
fines, and then the dog is removed permanently. This process can often be
completed within a week, if the animal control person cooperates. Instead,
it can take months, even if the violation is occurring every night.
That's the system we have. What you seem to be advocating is lawlessness
where people simply take things into their own hands. While due process can
be tedious, it is better than anarchy.
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And the very best would be to have the dog owner's phone number and invite
them to listen to the barkfest with you! If you can't dothat, then you'll
have to roust them in person. Believe me, they'll dislike being disturbed
by the barking moe than you. After a couple of times, the problem is
" It >is never the animal's fault. Never. It is always the fault of the
people who leave animals out to bark incessantly" .
Maybe you aren't that well read, or don't have comprehension of four syllable
words, but what does the term "incessantly" mean? Is that a word you'd use to
describe a ten minute barking session? OR, would the word "incessantly" imply
constantly, continual, ongoing, perpetually, never ending, non-stop? One word,
In this case, you know exactly what it means and what it does not. It does
NOT mean that the dog is out there 24/7. It does mean that it's out there
barking long enough to piss you off, often in the middle of the night, and
that it happens pretty much every day. If new dog owner puts the dog out
once and it barks, and the owner realizes "Hmmm....can't have that happening
any more", that's a different story.
Feel better...is there some rule where you first must disparage the person?
Afraid that what you have to say can't stand on its own muster? You might be
Nonetheless in this thread Doug has already disagreed with your
understanding of "incessantly" in his intended context. So one may readily
assume your dictionary skills were inappropriately used here....Rod
10 minutes is way too much barking. Dogs usually bark for a reason. If
it's something like another dog nearby or cat or noise, it's never 10
minutes. 10 minutes suggests a dog left out who has to bark that long to be
let back in. Not a sign of a good pet owner.
well, that explains why you're barking...
properly trained & sociallized dogs *don't* "just bark". a
properly trained & sociallized dog may give a warning bark if
a strange person enters the yard. it does not yap endlessly
for 10 minutes or 10 hours.
any owner who allows thier dog to do so should not be allowed
to keep an animal until they learn how to properly train &
sociallize said animal. that's pretty simple & generally
doesn't require a great deal of work or even intelligence on
the part of the owner.
Rod & Betty Jo,
You think it's the dog's fault & not the owner for allowing the barking? If
I misunderstood you, just ignore the rest of this.
If not, would you hold bratty little kids responsible or expect their
parents to civilize them? There comes a time when we humans are all
responsible for our actions, but I really don't think pets are able to reach
that stage -- it's all about training & back on the owner's shoulders, IMHO.
How would you have felt if you needed to sell your house while the neighbors
had a virtual junkyard? I don't mean WANT to sell, but NEED to sell. What
if, due to the trashy neighbors, you found that there were few people
interested in looking let alone making an offer? The offers you do get are
low-balls. That is a situation where it does become your business because
the junk reduces your property value or makes your house impossible to sell.
Well, obviously there are people out there who don't care - like me -
who will buy a house because they like the house. I'd appreciate
those kind of neighbors, that shows they'll keep their noses in their
own business and not mind mine. I don't see it as a huge hinderance.
You are completely ignoring what I initially said - I did buy a house
with a messy yard next door. The people who were selling this house
NEEDED to sell it, and I bought it. And there were other offers on
the very same house. So, I guess that shoots a few holes into your
If you're so worried about other people's homes, then you belong in a
nice managed neighborhood. Please stay there, and don't move next
door to me, trying to tell me how to live my life. I promise I won't
move next door to you and try to run yours.
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
I'm just pointing out that in a free market, when you reduce demand you also
reduce the value. Reducing demand doesn't mean that there is no demand
although it could, and the timing of the sale could be critical. Also, just
because you can find an exception to a rule, it doesn't dismiss the concept.
Every neighbor that sells, no matter how slovenly, has magically decided to
clean-up their place. The door gets painted. The trim gets painted.
Flowers are planted. The windows are washed. The yard is mowed and
trimmed. Funny how people who don't give a damn for 5 years suddenly "get
it" when they decide to sell. Do you suppose it is because it increases the
value of their house or is it due to some unexplained compulsion to clean
As for moving next to you, it would be the last thing I would ever consider.
I'm not worried about the homes of others. I just don't want inconsiderate
slobs, people operating meth labs, or acid-rock band rehearsals in my
neighborhood. I would be perfectly content if these things occurred in your
neighborhood because even slobs and drug deals have to live somewhere. I
suspect that you would be a hideous neighbor, bitching about everything
bothered you. I would laugh if a pig farm moved next to you. Remember, you
don't pay the mortgage or taxes so the stench would be none of your
business. One man's stench is another's junk yard. Enjoy.
Meth labs. Inconsiderate slobs. Nice. You are another one who
resorts to insults when you're losing your argument. I hope you learn
to be more tolerant of those who have different views than you do.
But I'm pretty sure you're incapable of it.
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
Whoa, where do you get that she's a "hideous" neighbor"? "Even slobs and
drug dealers have to live somewhere" -- WTF? Everything she's written here
suggests exactly the opposite -- live and let live without getting in
someone else's business. No offense, but from my perspective as someone
just reading this thread, you have degenerated into histrionic flaming for
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