Are there measuring tapes that dont have loosely riveted end hooks?
These seem to have a 1/16 or so movement so different measurements can be
had if pushing or pulling on the end. Any experience here?
1. The end hook is supposed to move. If you press or pull the end up
against something, it compensates for the the thickness of the hook itself
and gives you an accurate measurement either way.
2. trs80? Model I, III, IV, or something else?
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I have one. I bought it at Woodcrafters.
It's only good for outside measurement but that is what 99% of my in
shop measurements are. It's also flat and wraps around curves and
lays where I put it, and it has a story pole on it where I can pencil
in whatever I want. I use it as my primary tape rule in the shop.
A word of caution: check that the end is riveted square to the tape.
The first one I got wasn't and I had to make another trip exchange it.
Probably however if you really want one that does not work properly you can
disable this function by putting the hook where you want it, taking a flat
faced punch and hammer and whacking the rivets that attach the hook.
Some of us are actually intelligent enough to remember the tape measure's
off by a certain amount on one measurement type or another and do the
calculation to correct the measurement. I do it all the time when I
start measuring at "3" and not "0."
Some of us are also dumb enough to forget to do it. ;-)
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Ahh, but you're forgetting that most of us don't have an absolutely perfect
memory like you and being the imperfect beings that we are, we occasionally
forget to account for the difference. I'm ashamed to admit that I'm one of
those imperfect people, but I do aspire to the ultimate perfection that
you've obtained. What is it like to never ever forget anything? You must be
a very special person.
If the hook doesn't move, and is for example fixed to provide accurate
outside measurements, it will be off by the thickness of the hook for all
inside measurements. Just remember, always pull when the hook is hooked
push when it is butted up to something.
Or are you setting a hook of your own?
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Oh Yeah, DOH,
Fastcap makes a tape measure with a stationary hook. this tape measure is
sold at Woodcraft and Rockler IIRC.
Fast Cap makes several tape measures with special features.
This particular tape measure has an absolutely flat tape that lays flat and
or easily wraps around a circular object like a column. It makes laying out
marks marginally easier.
Because the tape is flat you CANNOT extend the tape with out holding it in
position it is limp and will bend and star to fall the instant it begins to
protrude out of the case. Because it will not extend like a normal tape
measure, it has no need for the hook to move to compensate for inside
measurements. This is strictly an outside measurement devise.
Called the Pro Carpenter Flat Back
Thanks for explaining why it is fixed. I recently got this tape and find
the lay flat feature nice, but in the shop you occasionally want to measure
the inside dimensions of a cabinet that is within arm's length or the
distance from blade to fence. Each of those neccessitates compensating for
the hook thickness (not much and at least it's constant). Also the STURDY
end hook hides most of the measurement lines in the first inch of the
blade. Otherwise it is a real nice product, just disappointed it is a
little cludgy in these two situations and I wind up reaching for the other
tape or rule instead.
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