Dissatisfied with Lee Valley order

[Trent©]

Nah...not just you, Dennis! Its a guy thing! lol

I seem to have most stuff sent to me by UPS...and most of the vendors nowadays send a confirming email...with a link to the UPS site...and my order number. So I track most orders from day one.

I have my UPS driver's cell phone number. If I'm really ansy, I'll call him and see if I can meet him somewhere on his route. If he has time (around lunch, etc.) I even treat.

I know by the tracking number when the package is gonna be delivered. So if I know that I'm gonna miss the delivery for sure...and its a valuable delivery...I try to run him down...or tell him exactly where to put it.

UPS is your friend! lol

Hope ya'll have a nice week...

Trent

Proud member of the Roy Rogers fan club!

[Larry Jaques]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:51:06 GMT, "Sam Krenov" pixelated:

Begone, troll.

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[Upscale]

Yes, Hoyt did act inappropriately (as we ALL HAVE on occasion) and as soon as he realized it he properly apologized. That should have been the end of it, but no, Charlie thought it prudent to inject a caustic comment anyway. That's what I take issue with. When someone admits to a mistake or tries to correct one, you don't kick him just for the hell of it. It's punishing and ultimately very petty. Hoyt punished himself just by admitting online that he'd made the mistake. Charlie has made more contributions to this newsgroup than most, but that doesn't make him perfect and doesn't protect him from criticism.

As far as Lee Valley Tools go, Hoyt said he needed something badly, they didn't deliver, and so he wouldn't be ordering from them again. I don't think that's going to hurt the company very much. The calibre of service that Lee Valley Tools offers can easily weather the infrequent type of comment that Hoyt left. That was evidenced by the dozens of positive responses in this thread.

[Upscale]

I agree with this 100%. I've gotten to know the UPS deliver woman that usually comes to my area and when she rings up and I'm not home, she always tries a neighbour I know that lives in the same building. It's saved my ass more than a few times.

[Upscale]

I guess you're trying to shed that perfection image that you dote on Charlie. Now you're actually practising a some pettiness. Good for you. Try a little harder though, it's not working.

[Upscale]

He apologized to Lee Vally Tools and then shifted the blame to FedEx. So what? That important part is that the apologized, and maybe, JUST MAYBE the fault was the responsibility of FedEx. Were you there Charlie to examine his front porch every day? Either way, it doesn't matter. You just had to get your dig in there.

And your point is? This whole thread between you and me is my taking exception to your comment when someone was trying to apologize, (no matter how poorly you think he was doing that). Again, in case you missed it Charlie, it makes you petty and not up to your usual high quality standards.

[Charlie Self]

Upscale responds:

Sigh.

No. It makes me not living up to YOUR standards. Sorry about that. Or not.

Charlie Self

"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful." Samuel Johnson

[Upscale]

:) Point taken.

[Rich]

You are soooooooooooooooooo hot!!!

[Leon]

No, actually UPS does not require a signature. I have UPS deliveries where the driver rings the door bell, leaves, and leaves the package on the door step. I think they are more likely to leave a low valued package with out a signature than one that is insured beyond the automatic $100 minimum.

[Sam Krenov]

continue

Said the kettle to the pot.

[Brian Elfert]

I've had UPS drop off a package at the front door and not even ring the doorbell when I was sitting in the living room. Heck, once I was standing out on my driveway and saw the guy pull up. He proceeded to put the packages on the step and didn't even have me sign for it.

I'm pretty sure some of those packages were insured.

Brian Elfert

[Ward Cleaver]

Larry Jaques wrote in rec.woodworking

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ROFLMAO Larry, if you are refering to "Bailiff, whack his p__ p__" your age is truly showing. I haven't heard that in 15 or 20 years. I got a good laugh out of it.

[Ward Cleaver]

Charlie Self wrote in rec.woodworking

UPS consistantly leaves package on front doorstep, rings bell and leaves. Gone by the time I answer the door and it is right there in full view of everyone passing by. US Mail will leave it with a neighbor if not home. Just my two cents worth.

[Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT]

Tue, Sep 16, 2003, 9:28am (EDT-3) [e-mail] (Tim=A0Douglass) says: Sorry Dave, but we've already blamed you for too many things, you're over quota this month. Someone else will have to take the blame.

Can tell you didn't read the minutes of the last meeting. An amendment to the by-laws was passed, by unanimous vote of all present. Dave now can be blamed for any, and every, wrongful act, with no upper limit. This is retroacative, just in case. The quota rule still applies for anyone else, for now.

By the way, you didn't receive minutes of the last meeting, because you don't have a need to know. And, there was no meeting, because there is no Cabal.

JOAT Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 15 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.

[Kevin Craig]

Otherwise expressed as "TINC".

Kevin

[Larry Jaques]

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:30:20 GMT, Ward Cleaver pixelated:

That was exactly what I referred to, thanks.

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[Tim Douglass]

I'm always the last to know.

Tim Douglass

[dennisvogel]

Gee, silly me. I thought apologizing meant taking responsibility for something that you'd previous given to someone else. He shifted so I think he's still +1 on the blame side. When he apologizes without making another blame then I'd say he's even, not until.

So a "just maybe" is enough to blame them?

I'm not Charlie but I think the guy already said the stuff was there within a week and he didn't know it. As has been said before, you'd think he's make some effort (call LV, get a tracking number, check the porch!) if it was such a vital order for him.

I'll let Charlie handle this one.

Dennis Vogel

[dennisvogel]

Does "insured" mean a signature is required? I thought "insured" meant "insured" and "signature required" meant "signature required". Silly me. ;-)

Dennis Vogel