God, didn't you just want to push that woman off the top of her
unfinished roof! What was the POINT of this programme?!! I thought it
was supposed to be all about making money from property by spending
enough, but no more, to do up a tired or dilapidated property, then
selling it. Sarah Beeney tried everything to persuade these
know-it-alls to revise their plans, yet they not only didn't listen to
a word she said, they treated her advice with contempt. You could
observe it, most of the time, on the woman's face. And then they had
the nerve to say that whether £5,000 or £50,000 profit, it was still a
profit! Er, excuse me, Mr & Mrs Property Developer, but there is a
£45,000 discrepancy between those two figures, duh!
And then they had to sell their own property to pay for the mismanaged
extra work they thought essential - ha bloody ha! Three weeks with
friends? How could anyone have stood them for three days?
This show tonight was the nadir of Property Ladder. It was not about
making money from property and how to save on costs. It was about a
personal tussle between the presenter and some folks who were just not
prepared to listen to any advice. And we never did get to hear whether
they sold it for half a million or whether, like Colin and Justin
found, they are still waiting for the right idiot to come along.
But these folks seemed totally unconcerned
that they had spent double their original "budget". This is not good
business practice. In fact, it's pants.
One thing that made me angry recently was a viewer of our family home, which is
up for sale. This woman proceeded to catalogue all her 'special needs' for a
house makeover - special taps, marble floors.... I'd almost nooded off by the
time she came to lapis-lazuli spittoons. She then expected me to reduce the
price of the house by the amount all this garbage would cost her, and put in an
offer £60,000 below the price I carefully spelled out for her. Quite deaf to
anything that contradicted her.
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What counts is what she is prepared to pay and what you are prepared to
The rest is hot air and fluff.
Ive dne teh same: Looked art a crumbling listed cottage, worked out what
would be needed to set it right, subtracted that from market value, and
offerd 50 grand less than what it was mortgaged for.
Not accepted. Fine. Move on.
If they have no employment and therefore no income and having to stay
with friends. How do they finance these weird conversions.
Note they had an offer of half a million which they rejected (and pigs
might fly)It seems apparant the buyer pulled out?
Did they ever sell or is this programme a con?
They had the advantage of having expert advise available at all time. They
could have learnt from others mistakes and made a lot of money a lot more
quickly, still had their house and the them and the buyers would have been
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It seems that all of these programmes have the same goal in mind, i.e.
to make the developers look like idiots. presumably, that is what the
programme makers have determined attracts viewers.
I have not seen one version of this type of programme which offers
sensible considered information, subsequently put into practice.
As has been said, it would be interesting to see Sarah Beeny and the
other "experts", acting as the developers, but perhaps that is not "good
That is because their motivation is not profit, but the realisation of
their own ideas.
It took being penniless in a foreign country with no social services to
indicate clearly to me the difference between working for yourself, and
working for a customer.
And in many ways its just as much fun to bend your skills towards
meeting someone elses design criteria, as your own.
Mind you, spend enough marketng dollars and you can convince the world
that what you wanted to produce is what they wanted to buy. See Microsoft.
But would it make good television if the amateurs said, after explaining
to Sarah their plans and hearing why she thought they were pants, "You're
right, let's do it your way instead"?
Actually, I think it would. And while it would put Sarah in the position
of having to prove herself right (positively, as opposed to showing clips
of estate agents and prospective buyers echoing her words), it wouldn't
really be much of a risk, would it?
When I sold my business, for really not too bad money, it was handed
obver to a sarah like person, who reckoned 'she could have done it so
Withing two years it was on the rocks, and within three was sold off, to
a firm who has just sold the dregs of what I built to someone else again.
Subsequently I have seen so many apparently sane people go mad once they
had their own propjects to run, especially using other poeples money,
that I now realise that the appearance of sanity in business and teh
ability to actually achieve a profitable result, are not at all the same
I have a friend of SWMBO's family who runs a substantial building and
construction firm. He reckons that 50-7% gross margin is good for the
trade. He reckons to achieve that is a question of hard nosed project
management, and careful design. Inventiveness and artiness has no place.
99% of customers do not want to live in the millenium dome, but well
found properties of flexible layout, and bits that work ON WHICH THEY
CAN EASILY IMPOSE THIR OWN STYLE such as it is (not, in most cases).
Big spaces with inteseting features like alcoves and dormers, can be
adpated to make amazingly nice rooms. You don't need to make them
amazingly nice tho. Leave that to teh buyer. Just spend teh minimum to
hint at teh exciting possibilities.
Flattering the ego of the potential buyer ' of course its a very
FUNCTIONAL space that you could REALLY add character to by...'
A grotty little bathroom into which a decent bath can never be instrted
without seriosu structiral modification has limited appeal. Unless yu
can find a rich art fart sucker who thinks its the bees knees.
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