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Had studs on my '63 valiant (rear only) They outlawed them in '70 or '71 except up in the "near north" from about North Bay or Sudbury on up. Didn't finf them particularly troublesome safety-wize on bare / wet pavement, but it was pretty easy to tear out studs braking or accellerating too hard. I buy good studless ice tires these days for winter (on all 4 wheels)

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Clare Snyder
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But their 3% or 5% raise was more than the total earnings of the "lower echelon" workers.

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Clare Snyder

There is a reason that all of my employers have _strongly_ discouraged the sharing of salary information.

It's not that far from yelling about "income inequality", when everyone's income is increasing. ...or poverty when even the worst off today are far better off than the vast majority twenty or fifty years back.

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krw

I could go with that but a gas tax is a pretty good approximation EVs are the exception. They have the smarts to do your ton-mile idea tough.

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krw

I pretty sure that the uproar would have happened even if company hadn't made an announcement and nobody said a word about their individual salaries.

As soon as it was revealed that the new base salary would be $15 - available via current job postings. The $15, 10 year employee that just went to $15.45 would know that something didn't seem right.

"Why is this posting for an entry level position showing $5 more than the same posting from last month? Why are they being hired at only 45¢ less than me? I need some answers."

Something this drastic would be hard to hide via a "discouragement policy".

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DerbyDad03

Your method is good going someplace not seen before. After a dozen trips up and down I95 there is nothing or interest to see. I've done some of the side trips already.

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Ed Pawlowski

Would have been better to bring them to $15 and not add the 3%. At least it gave the original 15 guys a little edge.

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Ed Pawlowski

Only the 10 year plus employees got the 3% on top of the bump, not anyone with less than 10 years of service.

If they didn't give the 10 year plus employees the 3% then all under $15 employees, including new hires, would now be making $15 with no recognition for the older employees' 10 years of service or any extra responsibilities and skills they may be carrying.

Would you be happy if you worked for 10 years, knew stuff and carried some amount of responsibility and they gave you a raise then immediately hired a newbie at the same salary? I think not.

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DerbyDad03

On 6/24/2021 1:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ...

Routine for salaried professional -- the new graduate right out of school gets far more starting salary than the combined raises the guys who've been there 3-10 years will have accumulated.

"That's life...nobody said it was always fair."

If you're unhappy with the raise, find somebody else willing to pay more. Nobody says you have to work at that particular place.

Then again, when start looking may (probably will) discover it ain't necessarily as bad as it might be...

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dpb

I've covered most of California over the last 30+ years using Clare's method. Last trip, summer 2019, hit the last corner of the state I hadn't seen yet (Alturus and the great basin).

Three nights in whatever motel was nearby at dinner time.

Fine drive across 299 to the coast.

Might drive to Yosemite (2.45 hours away) next week for a day hike.

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Scott Lurndal

I've been salaried all my life. 3 different companies. That's never happened to me. Of course, I never accepted their first offer anyway, so I always got a bump right from the start.

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DerbyDad03

My daughter is 29. She has a map of the US and she colors in each state after she visits. A visit must include doing something, not just driving through.

It usually involves an over-night stay - and often that's a campsite way, way off the beaten path like shown below. At a minimum it's a long hike, a visit to a historic site or something like that. Stopping for a quick lunch doesn't count.

She's filled in 35 states in the past 7 years and passed through a few more. That's a lot of driving!

Here's she is driving from Denver to Moab in Utah on the Rimrocker Trail. 160 miles over 2 days:

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...and the "campsite" in Moab:

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DerbyDad03

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You just illustrated the issue in a nutshell -- you squeezed the guys already there just as the new hires do those already there.

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dpb

We were driving up I75 Saturday towards Atlanta. The GPS time-to-destination kept going in the wrong direction so we got off the interstate and went back roads. With a GPS, it can be a much more pleasant drive and not that much more time, if any.

Then there's the US66 thing...

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krw

All good points. I'm actually surprised the "discouraged" thing worked for my employers. I guess money just isn't talked about.

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krw

I remember those days. After I was hired, several years went by before we were hiring again so I didn't see it but everyone after that ran into it, at least for some time.

Exactly the attitude. "Here's a towel..."

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krw

Not "squeezed". You were happy with what you were making before, what changed?

When other employers force the new hire salaries above the current salary plan it takes a while for things to right themselves. The employees with more service are nearer promotions and the salary plan will right itself. It has to or face massive turnover, which is never a good thing.

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krw

I haven't seen location notifications. I can't see how it's that useful since I can't see it while I'm driving. Buzzing just doesn't cut it. The damned thing is always buzzing.

Every time you pull into your driveway?

The only alarms that I find really useful is the alarm clock. Other information is buried in noise.

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krw

I do a 12-14 hour drive a couple times per year. Even being young, it takes a lot out of you. I think it might be wise to take it in shifts if at all possible, because eventually it becomes more of a chore than an adventure.

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Michael Trew

If there aren't airbags (most of my vehicles) I believe younger kids can still legally sit in the front. I much prefer my vehicles with bench seats... I love driving my truck and '89 Olds wagon with the bench seat. I hate bucket seats and head rests that "force" you into one position.

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Michael Trew

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