Strictly crosscuts for my RAS. I have a shaper for molding and a router
table for grooving.
I will soon have a SCMS for ......................miters.
I once used my RAS for ripping and my immediate thought was......... only in
an emergency. I don't have an opinion as to whether it's dangerous or not.
it's just that there are other easier ways.
I would rather mount a circular saw underneath a table and clamp a guide for
ripping. As a matter of fact that's what I did before the purchase of a
Don't know--haven't looked recently. New, out-of-the-box, probably
$2-3k. But, I bought this at auction 20+ years ago for about $250.
It did take adding a 3-phase converter for another $150 so overall I
have something like $500 in it...
However, one can almost always find them for essentially throwaway
prices if looking seriously because too many uninformed have been given
such propaganda as is bandied about here so they have become unpopular.
Of course, like anything else the "get what you pay for" mantra holds;
the cheap Craftsmans and some of the small DeWalts and similar were/are
simply too lightly built and deserve their reputation.
Again, as I told somebody else banging on RAS, they're two different
tools for differing purposes. I'm not denigrating the SCMS for its
place; simply standing up for the RAS in its place.
It sits in its dedicated long bench awaiting its calling when required
-- just like the cabinet saw, the miter saw in its bench, the jointer,
the shaper, the planer, ... All/any can serve in a pinch to do some of
the tasks of the others--which is most convenient/best is dependent on
the size of the work and the specific task at hand.
For the most part, the RAS is the "rough/heavy work" guy, of course;
now. However, for the first 5 years or so, it was the _only_ stationary
power tool and it served for all of the above on everything I did. The
jointer was the second, and those two served for almost another five.
At that point, I began to have sufficient resources to expand, adding
the planer and shaper next, ...
I'll add that if I were to start over again, I'd go at it the same way
-- the heavily-built 12" or larger RAS would be the first thing I would
buy, and build as long a worksurface bench for it to sit in as I had
The only difference in progression now vs then would probably be the
addition of a heavy plunge router as early on as could--back then was
before their time...
To upset you, apparently... :(
If you can't understand specialty usage, then I don't know I can explain it.
I actually bought the miter saw when doing interior trimwork so I could
set it up on remote job sites. Having once gotten it, could see no
reason not to keep it.
Again I'll reiterate -- if one is pressed for space or doesn't ever do
large, heavy work and has other ways to accomplish their objectives,
sure one can do without the RAS. Same can be said for any other
tool--the 18th century masters and earlier did without any of it and
At this point I'm done. There are reasons for both -- whether any
particular person/shop has justifiable reasons is up to them.
Should have known I'd be living in the past...
New looks like about $5k for nearest to what I have that is currently
Last auction I went to about two/three years ago now, however, the same
saw as I have went for roughly $750 iirc at a surplus auction of stuff
from several government facilities. I believe this saw came from a Navy
I went because of the old Oliver 24" jointer, but the auction was in TN
and had only that one weekend to remove items from the site and didn't
have enough of a vehicle w/ me to be able to move it. Being 1100 miles,
it was essentially impossible to get to KS and back in time to get
it...the killer is it sold for $150. Needed new bearings, motor, and
some other work, but was complete w/ fence, etc., ...
And, just to flog a dead horse, curiousity got to me---there are at
least two similar machines on eBay currently although one is 12" rather
than 14" that were at $200 current bid when I looked. Both single-phase
which is somewhat unusual but probably more convenient for most...
Used, Craigslist, Ebay, lots of 'em for $100-$200. You gotta sort out
the good cast iron models from the cheapy stamped steel ones, but a bit
of looking will turn up a good unit. Don't have a clue what a decent
new one might cost.
I got tons of help here at the rec when I got my RAS and a great piece of advice
was "don't move the head out of 90 degrees unless you have to..
I looked at maybe 5 or 6 people's shop made angle jigs and built my own.. pretty
much leave the head alone unless I'm ripping..
Pretty much just some sheet stock with fixed or adjustable "fences" on it..
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AFAIK, the SCMS replaces the CMS, right? Why have 2 CMS's?
I got a table saw a few months ago, and with it and my (non-sliding) CMS I
didn't see a need for my RAS taking up space..
A friend talked me into keeping it.. as he pointed out, even having it under a
tarp in the yard was better than getting the few bucks from selling it and NOT
having it when it was the best tool for the job..
Up to the neighbors, now.. lol
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