So do the math--calculat the number of amputations resulting in inability to run saw (amputation of tip of pinky-finger for exampled does not count), calculate the percentage of those who were likely to ever buy your saw, figure the cost of lost sales, figure the cost of preventing the amputations, and see which makes you more money.
If Delta put the Sawstop on the Unisaw at no change in price, would the presence of the Sawstop dissuade you from buying it?
In my case it would be $70- for the cartridge, and $110- for the blade...and I would like to state emphatically "yes" that I would gladly pay that many times to keep my fingers and limbs intact. Is there really any other way to look at it? Maybe for someone that was so cheap that they can justify not spending the money to keep their digits and limbs there is a different answer...but I don't think so!
I keep reading that from people, but how many times have you heard anyone say that they drive more recklessly because they have an airbag in their car? Or even really had reason to believe they do? It isn't human nature to behave that way. Whenever I heard that argument the first thought that comes to my mind is that it's a hollow argument from someone who simply does not like an idea, but has not real argument against it. Sort of a red herring. People have a natural tendency to avoid things that will hurt them whether safety devices are in place or not. The problem comes in if they don't know about the things that can hurt them or if for some reason they believe themselves to be immune to the potential for injury. You know - like we all were when we had our first cars. Before our first accidents...
occasionally.
Not unsafe - dangerous. There is a big difference. Table saws have always been acknowledged as being dangerous. I suspect it's more of a combination of a few things. 1) Cost - always the big decider. 2) They may like the idea but are now working on their own version so they are not subject to redesign just to accommodate a proprietary solution. 3) They may be resisting yet another government forced solution to a problem that is sensationalized by an individual who is trumpeting it for his own personal gain.
Replacing the cartridge is as easy as changing the blade. I don't know where you get that it has to be shipped here and there and everywhere...
Average reaction time when feeding your hand into a saw blade is 2.5 fingers. At that point you might as well throw them into the garbage.
Again, where do you get this idea from? Have you been to their website and read it thoroughly?
Where is the "common good"? What is the "common good"?
Do you just like to hear yourself talk? Why don't you do some research before you perpetuate this crap? It is people like you that hold up the evolutionary process. Maybe manufacturers don't want to include it because they don't give a crap about whether or not you keep your limbs...ever think of that?
Here is text taken directly from their FAQ page;
The SawStop system can be used with practically any type of woodworking equipment, such as miter saws, chop saws, radial arm saws, circular saws, sliding table saws, jointers, band saws, shapers and the like. The electronics, detection and firing systems are the same, with the brake mechanism tending to vary between different types of woodworking equipment.
CSounds great to me...can't wait to order mine!
More unresearched supposition...
I've been driving for nearly 40 years and have never been in an accident where having a seat belt saved my life. Yet, I'm still glad that my car has them.
C'mon Doug - didn't Steve Gass say he has two of them in the field... even as we speak?
The false dillema is what you are not understanding. That's OK, not everyone does.
I apologize. It was very presumptuous of me to assume that everyone would be willing to pay $100 to avoid having a finger cut off. I guess there are exceptions. My fingers are worth that much to me, but your are worth how much?
If they are Ted, there's no such indication on the web site. Everything on the web site is pre-order only.
They are not relying on OSHA! No one is regualting anything to create their market. They are financing it themselves.
No, they are being delivered as we speak!!
There is no "false dilemma". If your saw doesn't work then you have to do something about it and the only real solution that does not involve fixing the saw is to get a new saw.
You can play word games about "false dilemmas" until Hell freezes over and it won't alter the fact.
You assume that the alternatives are to pay $100 or to get a finger cut off. Talk about "false dilemmas".
You mean he has stopped doing that? And your source for this information is?
I think that the best thing for Sawstop could be the insurance companies. If my agent tells me my workman's comp will be 20% or 30% lower with Sawstop, I'd certainly take a look at it. Otherwise I'm not too interested.
Mike
Right, and the petition was rejected. Now they are manufacturing their own line of tooling with sawstop. Besides, the free market never decided they did not want it, it was once again the manufacturers lack of concern for the safety of the consumer that decided they did not want it. How is that a failure? We' shall see if the free market wants it or not.
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