If you're going to comment on this thread, please check that your
follow-ups are at least x-posted to news.groups, which is the correct
place to discuss RFDs. If they're not, then they can tend to get lost
from sight of the official process.
But yes, it's a lousy idea. I also _really_ don't like the idea of two
self-appointed moderators who don't even have real email address. One
is a lurker who has barely posted and the other is completely unknown.
Why not just call it rec.woodworking.me.me.me ?
I think we may just get an answer to the burning question "what if
they made a whiney net-nanny's group and nobody came?"
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin
I make it a point, with this exception and occas stupidity, to not
x-post. I doubt that this group that Vito is longing for will
ever get off the ground, even ssuming it gets a "yes" vote. He
has managed to miss the point and the ethos of this NG, which
along with RCW is one of the few left that has common decency as a
core value and pleasant give and take as a manner. Take a look at
the wRECk and you see the remnants of the the older porch and
pond. why would we want to give that up for a sterile serving of
pablum. Thanks for catching the extra e BTW. %-)
Dave in Fairfax
ha ha, that's funny
This group is one of the most intolerant groups that I frequent. RW is
having a lull at the moment since some of the worst are away, but this
group has zero tolerance for disagreement and our esteemed cabinetmaker
ret. was one of the worst.
On top of that, there are a percentage of idiots here who just cannot help
but respond to every spam, OT and troll post that comes through.
The only way to stomach this place for more than a few days is heavy use
of filters and killfiles.
Having said all that, I would still oppose a moderated group... there are
plenty of web forums for people who want that sort of stuff.
That's right Dave, you are arguing with yourself and now you have outed
yourself, must be a split personality.
You obviously have no clue what a sockpuppet is, but if commenting without
a clue were a crime, several people here would be in jail.
Get out of ignorance free card, do not pass go, do not get your chisels
n. [Usenet: from the act of placing a sock over
your hand and talking to it and pretending it's talking back] In
Usenet parlance, a pseudo through which the puppeteer posts
follow-ups to their own original message to give the appearance that
a number of people support the views held in the original message.
He might be, but he's not BAD -- unless the BADboy changed ISPs, newsservers,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
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You must use your REAL email address to get a response.
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:46:45 GMT, Mortimer Schnerd, RN
Somewhere there's a Usenet rule that any message mentioning the spelling of
another poster, must contain at least one spelling error. I figure since
it's got to be there anyway, I'd put it where I knew where it was.
Hi Doug, I figured that HWSNBN might be feeling deprived and have
done just that. Conversley, I have 3 ISP's, 2 OS's and run 4
browsers, depending on what I'm doing. So I don't put it against
anybody else to do the same or even more.
Dave in Fairfax
news.groups is for discussions about the creation of new newsgroups.
If you have a comment about whether to create rec.woodworking.moderated
please post it to rec.woodworking and news.groups.
If you have a comment about anything else, please post it to
rec.woodworking only without crossposting it to news.groups.
We have a job to do, and do not need the additional noise from
you crossposting your flamewars here.
Thanks in advance for helping.
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:18:53 -0700, Guy Macon <> wrote:
The .moderated group was brought up by a non-participant of the
rec.woodworking newsgroup for unknown reasons. As such, discussing
that person's non-participation in the group is relevant to the
Do you have a FAQ which talks about the foolishness of creating a
moderated group when the person suggesting same is unlikely to be
a positive influence in the process? That'd be helpful. Serious
question - I've seen many groups where a .moderated is created by
someone with an agenda, and the .moderated group languishes and dies
because of non-participation.
Actually, the proposed moderator's non-participation in the group is
relevant to the discussion, but the proponent's non-participation
is irrelevant. Iit shouldn't matter who makes the proposal; the
proposal stands or falls on it's own merits. The moderator, on the
other hand, will have total control over the group, and thus discussing
his character, abilities, and commitment is very much on-topic.
Please keep your discussion related to the proposal when you crosspost
to news.groups and please don't crosspost to news.groups when you are
enaging in generalized flaming.
No, because it doesn't matter who suggests the name.
In those cases, the correct thing to do is to attack the proposal, not
I realize that they are the same person in this case. I was
encouraging the woodworkers to use the correct "this moderator
stinks! vote no!" instead of the incorrect "this proponemt stinks!
vote no!." (note: I have no opinion as to whether the proponent/
moderator actually stinks. I am just advising those wh think he
OTOH, most of the woodworkers are unlikely to be interested in the
exact workings of newsgroup creation. In this case, it is likely
to confuse matters by adding a irrelevant point (ie that the
proponant's character is unimportant), when the proponant's character
does matter because he is a proposed moderator.
Don't forget, Guy, that people who hang round news.groups are much
more interested in the process of creating groups then the people
who don't. Those other people aren't going to be tested on their
knowledge of the exact format of newsgroup creation.
PS I'm posting from news.groups.
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