JUST ONCE.....

You ought be in the same room or near the saw when it happens when you WEREN'T expecting it.

We've set ours off about 8 times in several years. Usually because of failure to note embedded metal, wet wood, aluminized vapor backer, etc. Only once when a man was pushing it - he thought he had completed a cut he was pushing along the fence (probably way too close and should have been using a push stick) and set it off with no visible cut, looked more like a splinter.

Yes, it is expensive to set it off. Cartridge and blade.

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DanG
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You guys are wise. IMO, only a fool, with a single employee who's job description included operating a table saw, would not have a SawStop today.

Cheap at fifty times the price ...

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Swingman

damn. $800 in false trips. More than my saw cost new. Dandy product you got there. what a joke!

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Steve Barker

Don't knock what you can not afford.

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Leon

i could afford 10 of them tomorrow and pay cash. You don't seem to understand. I DON"T WANT ONE!! And i don't want them forced on other people who know how to use a saw properly.

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Steve Barker

Steve Barker wrote in news:ovudnXl3fMnCG4bSnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

False trips are an annoyance, but it's possible that the cost of the saw and replacement cartridges and blades might be saved by one real trip. You can be extremely careful in the shop (and should be) but one moment of stupidity or one action messed up could result in permanent injury.

I'm usually in the extremely careful camp, but made one mistake and fortunately the push block paid for it.

Puckdropper

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Puckdropper

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:05:48 -0600, Steve Barker

Your arrogance in the face of possible injury is absolutely stunning.

*You* are exactly the time of person the SawStop if designed to protect. It's patently obvious that if you accidentally cut a finger off, you'd be the first to go crying to a lawyer.
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Dave

you obviously don't know me. I am not the sue happy type. I believe in people being accountable for their own actions. And that includes keeping your digits out of the saw.

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Steve Barker

and THAT is why we use push sticks/blocks.

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Steve Barker

Then shut the F___up about it.

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Leon

Absolutely! We all try to be careful and those of us with half a brain realize that trying to be careful all of the time just does not fly. We are human and accidents happen.

How much does it cost to reattach a finger or hand?

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Leon

Steve Barker wrote in news:aOqdnfZ_rpKjOobSnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

So if you don't want one, DON'T BUY ONE.

The fact that other people DO want them is not changed by either your arrogant refusal to even consider the possibility that you might hurt yourself some day, or your consequent inability to understand why it might be a useful thing to have.

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Doug Miller

Puckdropper wrote in news:4f1ba8aa$0$1642$c3e8da3$ snipped-for-privacy@news.astraweb.com:

I likewise consider myself in the "extremely careful" camp, but made one mistake a few years ago, resulting in a trip to the ER for what the doc called a "remarkably superficial" injury. Even so, it was quite painful, I'm now missing a *very* small portion of the tip of my left thumb, and there's a little spot that's permanently numb.

I've left the blood splashes on the wall, as a reminder to be more careful in the future.

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Doug Miller

mistake a few years ago,

superficial" injury. Even so, it was

thumb, and there's a little spot

the future.

And unfortunately it takes this type of accident to make one realize how foolish the thought is that being careful and knowing the rules is all you need to do. We are only human after all. ;~)

Then factor the actual cost of the er trip, especially one that might involve bone, and the occasional false trip brake and blade replacement cost of $200 is simply not much worth mentioning.

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Leon

mistake a few years ago,

superficial" injury. Even so, it was

thumb, and there's a little spot

the future.

OBTY, many years ago I was putting a set of tires on a car, IIRC I was

20 years old. I was using the typical method of removing the valve stem from the tire and wheel on the tire machine and ended up slicing open my pinky finger on my left hand. Basically I cut from the tip of my finger back to the base of the nail and laid that and my nail over to one side. Bled like a stuck pig. I quickly push everything back in place and put a couple of band aids over it and left it that way for about 4 days. No stitches or trip for a tetanus shot, hell I was 20 and indestructible.

Well I must have been indestructible as when I removed the bandages 4 days later the injury was healing nicely and everything was the normal color.

I did however loose feeling on that side of my finger and there is still a small dark spot where dirt is apparently still under the skin. About five years later I noticed that I had regained all feeling in that finger again.

Your might also regain feeling in your thumb some time down the road.

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Leon

Nobody ever said that we Wreckers couldn't beat a dead horse to death all over again, several times, did they?

When people want a thread to stop, they stop posting to it. I'll stop here.

-- I have the consolation of having added nothing to my private fortune during my public service, and of retiring with hands clean as they are empty. -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Count Diodati, 1807

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Larry Jaques

Evidently, most tablesaur accidents are unrecoverable. The saw shatters the bones too badly in too many cases. Just call 'em Stubby.

-- I have the consolation of having added nothing to my private fortune during my public service, and of retiring with hands clean as they are empty. -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Count Diodati, 1807

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Larry Jaques

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tiredofspam

What's got your knickers in a twist, Steve? You seem to have directed all the hate most of us reserve for Congress at the SawStop makers.

Those were not false trips - they were operator error. And we used a SawStop saw in the classroom at Woodcraft when I worked there. At least one student stuck a finger in the blade - it fired and she needed a band aid.

Yes, the patent owner's business ethics leave something to be desired in my opinion, but there's lots worse out there.

It's an election year. There must be a better target for your rants :-).

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Larry Blanchard

Sounds like my left thumb :-). Not only that, I split a fingernail down the middle on my right hand about a year later. Lucky both times.

Forty years with no table saw injuries, then two in a year. None since, but I've developed a better understanding of my fallibility :-).

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Larry Blanchard

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