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Mar 12, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 149 Replies

If you swap the left and right swivel wheels you have to rotate them 90 degrees, clockwise and counter clockwise, to fit. Then the lift levers are on the side/end vs. the front.

I couldn't imagine what you were talking about until I went downstairs to look more closely at the base. I think it's too late to change my drill press (it was a PITA as it was). It'll be fairly easy to change the base on my router table, though it is heavy.

LOL, I only knew to do this because the instructions indicated how to do that.

Instructions? I don't need no steenkin' instructions!

Um Huh! Instructions are for sissies!

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper, and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"... The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox (DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

Have you seen this?

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Oneida has good stuff but there's no free lunch. Volume, pressure difference, HP, pick two.

These are pretty odd and know nothing about them,

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I just noticed, it is a 5HP DC. Wiring may be a problem. ;-)

I kept an eye out for good deals on stationary tools and when I saw one I bought it... I always made sure I had cash available to jump on deals at a moments notice. For example, when Woodworkers Warehouse folded I picked up a Jet 3 HP cabinet saw with a 50" XActa fence, mobile base and out feed table for about $950 including tax. That was about half of what they were going for at the time. I grabbed a bigger dust collector too. My new out of pocket for that stuff was a few hundred dollars after I sold my Jet contractors saw and old dust collector. I grabbed a couple sets of cope and stick, and other shaper cutters for pennies on the dollar also.

I found the 3 HP shaper on Craigslist. A guy bought it to make picture frames as a compliment to his wife's photography business. There was a whole bunch of tooling included also. He set it up, played with it a little and never used it. I had a 1 1/2 HP Jet floor model shaper that I sold for as much as I paid for the 3 HP shaper. My out of pocket for that was gas and time. Like with the jointer I found I was trying to work with stock and cutters that were really too big for the small table on the 1 1/2 HP shaper. It's a tool that when I need it I need it... I suspect it's something most guys would ever need.

My shop was all but completely outfitted about 15 years before I retired. What I saw in my woodworkers club was guys retiring and then trying to build a shop, buy all the tools, and buy wood. Guess what... it was basically too late for many of them. They didn't have the discretionary income or the skills to do much of anything. After seeing that happen numerous times I decided to just do it!

Yeah, 240 volts. Seems odd that they use 3 small HP motors to develop 5 hp and require 240 volt on top of that. And I don't quite understand. Many cyclone DC's separate the fine dust from the larger dust. This does not seem to be the case with this unit.

BTW Woodcraft/Jet is having a 10% sale now and free shipping. March

25-30. Might be a local thing since Woodcraft sent the sale to me via e-mail.

This DC has been out for a few years. One of the old timer YouTube'rs got one and raved about it. But in the last year or two his video's have shown a lot of dust on the floor. Not sure if he still has it or just needed the space back. That thing is huge. And 240 volt. Stumpy Nubbs, another YouTuber that seems to know what he is talking about praises Harvey products in particular their band saws. But he is probably on commission too.

Next level carpentry.

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240V isn't a problem. More than 20A is. I already have a 240V 20A circuit dedicated to the DC (and another for everything else).

Jet is on sale more than not (likewise Powermatic). I picked up another Jet air cleaner for $299 (25% off) last weekend.

I think I prefer the Laguna DCs. I'm getting more interested in exotics so am getting a little more paranoid about breathing dust so I'd rather have a HEPA DC. The Jets are 1u and not a lot cheaper than the Laguna 1u collectors.

The 8" helical jointer "Ships August 6, 2021". I have some time to decide about that one, sale or not. ;-) The DC is the last on the list of toys.

Stumpy Nubbs is one of the better Youtubers but I always wonder about motivations.

I didn't realize just how big the thing is. It's out of my range but it did tweak my interest. Thanks.

Exactly. Right now I have plenty of money and no time. Shortly, I'll have plenty of time and no money. ;-) The problem is that SWMBO will have an infinite honeydo list.

I was going to retire a year ago but SWMBO had other ideas. That timer ran out in October so I can leave at any time. Work is interesting now so told the boss I'd finish the project I'm working on. It's easy work. Covid has everyone working from home and he's in Detroit anyway. We're on a phone call twice a week. I can deal with such micro-management. ;-)

I think these are the last stationary tools that I'll need. I didn't think I needed a jointer but looking at the lumber I've seen around, I think it's going to be a must. The last, and not completely necessary, stationary tools will be the DC.

Today's Woodcraft spam says "Ships on October 13, 2021". The Jet looked really good but it's now off the list.

He's as bad as I am. It took 3/4 of the video to get the thing on the floor.

I'm not quite sure why people video stuff like that, moving it into place. Ron Paulk has made some great work benches and he has a pretty good video production but jeez he over states every move he makes for the simplest of tasks. Yesterday I watched part of his video explaining the combination square.

I learned that you can use a combination square to draw a straight line.... WOW! I thought only my tri-square and rules allowed you to draw straight lines. :~) I think he meant to say, draw a perpendicular line to straight edge.

He is obviously running out of things to show while hawking his work bench plans at the beginning of the video.

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