Do you use any computer based tool for doing project layout?

[Robert Bonomi]

Unfortunately, he *can't* do that, no matter how politely anyone asks.

Explanation -- he's not a 'token' inbred simpleton idiot.

[Robert Bonomi]

Depends on what you mean by 'extensive' it was a 'decimal' (although the actual 'base' it used for arithmetic operations was programmable!) machine, so it only needed 100 (2-digit) entries for a 1-digit x 1-digit table (base 10).

1x2 would have required 1000 (3-digit) entires, and 2x2 would have needed 1000 4-digit entires. As the smallest machines had only 20,000 'digits' of storage, it is clear that the look-up table was a 1x1 matrix (200 digits total). subtract, and multiply, were also performed using separate look-up tables.

[Bill]

I think some would say that if your variables are getting close to their limits very often, then it's time to consider looking for a new data structure.

[keithw86]

zero result, zero carry

=A0=3D> one =A0result, zero carry

=A0=3D? zero result, one =A0carry

Yes, with the three stooges (Uppity, RoboTwat, and you), I now know a

*lot* about morons.

Yes, my first-hand experience in computer architecture sure makes you look like a fool, but the kicker is that you can't read. Uppity and RoboTwat are simply leftist thieves.

[keithw86]

Moron. Not when that wasn't the issue at hand. Of course you can always bring a strawman to any argument if you think it makes you look smart. It doesn't.

Enough.

[Robatoy]

=3D> zero result, zero carry

=A0=3D> one =A0result, zero carry

=A0=3D? zero result, one =A0carry

=A0 =A0=3D> zero

(Pretty soon all of us will be labeled stooges by keith... institutions are full of guys(?) like him.)

[keithw86]

:

=3D> zero result, zero carry

1 =A0=3D> one =A0result, zero carry

1 =A0=3D? zero result, one =A0carry

=A0 =A0=3D> zero

2 EQ 0 =3D> one

2 EQ 1 =3D> one

No, you're special. Short-bus special.

[keithw86]

rather used an

en. =A0 =A0 =A0

irectly. =A0 =A0 =A0'Adder'

Wrong. Once again, Invert Complement. The inverter is used in the Carry/Borrow logic *NOT* as a complement.

BINARY FULL ADDER: __ A --++---------------\\ \ | __ ||XOR|o------Sum B --|--+---\\ \ +-//__/ | | ||XOR|o-+ Ci--|--|--+//__/ | | | | | __ | | | +-| \ | | | |AND)+-+ __ | | +---------+|__/ ++\ \ | | __ |OR|- Carry | +------------+| \ +-/__/ | |AND)+-+ +---------------+|__/

Full Adder

Full Subtractor:

__ Bin -------------------------+-\\ \ __ | ||XOR|------------------ Dif A ---+-------\\ \ +-|-//__/ | ||XOR|-+----+ | __ B ---|--+----//__/ | +--| \ | | | |\ |AND)--+ __ | | +-+| >O---|__/ +-\ \ | | |/ | OR|---------Borrow | | __ +|/__/ | +---------------------| \ | | |\ |AND)--- +---------| >O-----------|__/ |/

They look pretty much alike to me.

Wrong.

zero result, zero carry

=A0=3D> one =A0result, zero carry

=A0=3D> zero result, one =A0carry

result, zero borrow

e =A0result, zero borrow

e =A0result, one =A0borrow

*VERY* similar. Close enough to be the *SAME LOGIC*

No, there is no difference in the real world.

Absolutely irrelevant.

I *DESIGN* the stuff. Yes, I know what I'm talking about.

What machines? CADET (the subject, BTW) didn't do either, "natively".

[Robatoy]

You're probably very good at what you do. Your social skills need work, so you might come across as less of of a dick. You're probably just misunderstood.

[keithw86]

From a socialist thief like you, that's a compliment.

[Robatoy]

Get your facts straight. I was an independent small business owner with a staff of 4. It was the third business I built from the ground up and then sold for a nice lump of coin. I now have one business left, my CNC millwork business. I own this business outright. No debt, no bank-loans, just a huge amount of supplier credit and goodwill. I have never collected a dime from any social assistance programs and vote conservative unless there's an asshole like you who's running for a political position under the guise of conservatism. The (small) liberal side of me believes that I should help those less fortunate than I. So you are wrong, wrong, wrong, f*ck-face.

[Lee Michaels]

"Robatoy" wrote

Get your facts straight. I was an independent small business owner with a staff of 4. It was the third business I built from the ground up and then sold for a nice lump of coin. I now have one business left, my CNC millwork business. =====================

Congrats on another biz success/transition.

You must be a lousy retiree.

Did you get kicked out of your shop?

Just how is the CNC biz in your neighborhood? Do you see this as a growth biz?

[Larry Jaques]

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:12:07 -0700, the infamous "LDosser" scrawled the following:

Anything they made had a "pissed-up-a-rope quality" to it. It's integral to their crap. No proof necessary.

[Robatoy]

Thank you. I do not know how to to do nothing. I still have my shop and my office. I will be here till the new owners are properly trained and certified, probably till fall. Meanwhile it has become obvious to me that the demand for CNC work is a lot more varied than I had even dreamt possible. From a commemorative plaque in

1-1/2 walnut to 1200 round pvc tags for a cattle farmer. Then a huge 16 x 4 ft carved sign for a marina (pics to follow once a local artist paints it.) and now somebody wants barber-poles of all things. I am learning about different feedrates in different materials (yet to break a bit) the software learning curve is easy initially but pretty steep if you want some really cool stuff. (Vectric Aspire) I will be adding an 'a-axis' spindle/indexer for more fun stuff. In the next 18 months, the last daughter will be off to school, and Angela will be done with her NP. Then we will consolidate everything and build somewhere where I can work with my CNC from home where Ang will hang her shingle as well. Maybe Maritimes, maybe British Columbia. Who knows.

A growth business? Hell yes. The guys at Vectric have done a fantastic job creating the Aspire software making it, in relative terms, a lot easier to create works of art. Even though my cnc is a General, the ShopBot community is just incredible with help for newbs like myself.

I just wish I had done this 10+ years ago.

[Lee Michaels]

"Robatoy" wrote

A growth business? Hell yes. The guys at Vectric have done a fantastic job creating the Aspire software making it, in relative terms, a lot easier to create works of art. Even though my cnc is a General, the ShopBot community is just incredible with help for newbs like myself. ===

You make a lousy neander.

=== I just wish I had done this 10+ years ago. =========

I would guess that the technology, support, CNC machines, etc are much better today than ten years ago. And Morris had not built his machine and begun his CNC subversiveness.

Oh well...., better late than never.

[Morris Dovey]

8-|

Subversive... moi?

True, and I'm wishing I'd learned earlier just how to go about being "subversive"...

...I'm just now starting to have real fun with this stuff:

when/if you tire of the CNC, you're welcome to play along with a really interesting group of "subversives". :)

[Robatoy]

LOL...I have made some facsimiles of furniture and stuff. I own a hand plane and a scorp, not to mention an adz. I have created adztech.

It *is* indeed Morris' fault. Absolutely. I will be forever grateful for his subversiveness. Sometimes I need a nudge. I was always cnc- curious. Damned machines made way too much sense but were boat-loads of money when I last looked at them. Those machines were always a proposition that included fully booked work schedules, trained staff and very expensive software. Now they make sense on a more one-off custom level.

[Robatoy]

Looks like you hit the ground running. Excellent!

[Lee Michaels]

"Robatoy" wrote

LOL...I have made some facsimiles of furniture and stuff. I own a hand plane and a scorp, not to mention an adz. I have created adztech.

=== I just can't help myself.

Adztech, eh?

Have you made an adztech calendar?

[Robatoy]

I have.