Am considering building some counters and cabinets and am looking for
software to determine how much material to buy and to create cut lists. Am
an amateur woodworker and do not do production work, so any recommendations
for decent but reasonably priced (i.e. <$100) software would be appreciated.
How is a project entered into that? Do you have a pre-made list of
dimensioned parts of the piece that is entered into the program?
Curious about how you use it... but can't myself as I'm not a
I have not been very satisfied with Cutlist Plus and still use it but
often end up referring to the original list. I have not found it's
layout always very efficient.
I don't find it's software engineering all that great. It seems like a
poorly featured spreadsheet type or simple table type of screen. I
find it rather limited in that respect.
Cut List is like Democracy. It's the worst form of government except
for every other form.
I haven't found anything much better than Cut List. The only other real
options worth considering are a full blown CAD package that will
generate the lists from your designs. Much more expenive and big
Cut List can be tamed a bit if you fudge with the setting. It works
better for plywood than board stock. I do mostly boards and it doesnt
always do cross cuts first, even when I tell it too. But if you go back
and reset the properties for the bad layouts after it generates them, I
can usually get it to do the corss cuts and arrange them properly.
On certain jobs this program saves me many many hours.
I trust you realize you can change the way it lays out stuff via the
preferences? If you *don't* choose "best alignment" on the
"Optimization" tab you'll get more efficiency but greater cutting
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I tried the CutList demo and did not find it all that inuitive to
use...especially for infrequent use in my home shop.
Tried demos of both CutMaster 2D Lite and SL8 from SheetLayout(.com). Both
user interfaces were easier to understand IMHO. SL8 lets you indicate
direction of grain for each peace plus it optionally uses color to id the
Thanks all for your input. Given my limited needs, am sure one of these
packages will do the trick and are both <$50 for the "lite" version.
Let me throw in my 2 cents here Joe. I have done beta testing for Don, SL8
and Todd, CutList Plus.
Don at SL8 has not updated the program since the Summer of 2001. He and I
worked quite extensively on the program and how it would look and function.
Basically I persuaded him to make many of the features the way they are now.
He would revise the program 3 or 4 times a day for about 3 weeks during
thebeta testing. That said however the program does not flow as fluidely as
CLP. It does however IMHO do a bit better job of optimising. I have
unlimited versions of both CLP and SL8 and feel that CLP is a clear winner
when it comes to intuitiveity.
With both unlimited programs on my computer, I only use Cut List Plus.
Thanks, Leon. I'll give CLP another try. Again, at the moment, my needs
are rather simple. Based on approximate part sizes of the cabinets and
counters I'd like to 1)determine materials required, 2) display layout based
on grain direction to minimize waste, and 3) total cost so I can convince my
wife that it a) might be or b) might not be cost effective for me to build
Of course, since I expect my dovetail jigs to arrive today via UPS, building
is my preference. :)
Any form of CAD program allows you to do that. If you know how to use it
then you will never pick your nose again without a diagram. AutoCAD, I
can't believe everybody doesn't have it, is just akin to using a snap on
combination wrench vs. a rubber handled adjustable. If you can imagine a
cookie cutter in your mind and you can draw a rectangle, then you get the
point. Copying, modifying, moving, arrays etc. is ABCs. And it also allows
you to design everything. Dimension, order, print. And it does things for
you instantly no human can. You don't need a purchase order to sit down and
make something. You can probably use paint. Just draw the appropriate size
stock, create your pieces, copy, rotate, place. Peanuts.
Then when considering "Any form of CAD" you would have to do all the
thinking to make the pieces fit. Drawing 150 different sized pieces on to
15 ramdom width boards could be kinda tough when considering maximum
If you know how to use it
With that comment I cannot believe that everyone does not drive a
I would never pick my noise with a pencil. I agree it is not to be taken
lightly. I have an honours 2 yr. full time college CAD/CAM diploma. I
could "write" his PO in the time it takes to smoke a cigarette.
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