CPSC Proposes New Safety Rule for Tablesaws

[Leon]

Panasonic, now that is a name you can trust, and I am not being sarcastic.

[J. Clarke]

In some models it can be retrofitted, for a high price, and with some hacking (the dealer won't do it--you have to buy the parts and do it yourself). I understand that if you have a model with autopark the retrofit doesn't work for some reason.

[krw]

That's one camera. The integrated units use more than one camera and stitch the image together to get more of a "surround" view, so the blind spots disappear.

I'd like to add a backup camera to my truck but I don't have a screen (well, just a little 4" thing for the radio). It looks like a PITA to do it any other way.

[Leon]

Got'cha. Just get the replacement rear view mirror model from Best Buy. I think it would set you back about $300 installed.

In my case the radio intermittently stoped working on my Tundra. I went with a Pioneer radio/GPS/BU camera.

[Leon]

Yeah, there is always aftermarket. I do know that there are different install kits that they use depending on what features you have. Auto parking might be the kicker though.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Ooops, the 11" was the instrument section. Display is 9.2" This is a Genesis Ultra.

Like a lot of nav systems, as you approach a highway exit it shows the lanes, the lane you should be in and even the signs overhead. I can go for weeks and never use it around normal local travel but we did 3700 miles in two weeks earlier this month. Sure was nice to have and I used it much of the time.

What is also nice, i can use BlueLink on the computer to find destinations, hotels, etc. Then I send it to the car and next day it is there, no typing on on the dash. You ca plan an entire trip and have all the destinations under "google send to car" when you want them.

BTW, I know you know your way around a dealership from experience but I got the best deal using TrueCar.com I did not buy from the TrueCar dealership but got the same price and saved a lot of the BS negotiating.

[Leon]

Good to know, especially about TrueCar. It is always good to know other sources. Thanks

[krw]

Is it normally just a mirror? I don't think I could see it if the camera is used for normal driving.

That's another possibility but the options are really confusing. I have no interest in running wires throughout the truck. I did that once for an XM radio and it didn't go well.

[Leon]

Yes, Pretty sure they only come on in reverse. But to be safe, confirm.

My install price for the BU camera was $100 and $100 to R& R the radio install microphone, GPS antenna, wiring harnesses and mounting kit. Not worth it for me to crawl around under the truck. I was very happy with install. Wiring was well hidden.

[krw]

Thanks. I'll have to go over to BB and take a look. The descriptions aren't very clear. OTOH, some of the reviews are useful. Shouldn't it just replace the existing mirror? Why does it need windshield attachment hardware?

Yeah, for $100, I wouldn't even attempt it.

[Leon]

I don't recall, but it seems that the new mount handled the wiring in some way.

You can probably Youtube that model you are interested in and get more info. I did that with my radio/GPS.

[Leon]

One more FWIW. Most all auto radio shops sell the back up mirrors too.

[Jack]

Don't forget, cars KILL 40,000 here every year. Table saws kill no one. Requiring everyone riding in a car wear a crash helmet costing less than a saw stop device would save a ton of lives every year, while banning table saws completely would not save one life....

Also, everyone seems to accept the 55,000 table saw injuries/year. I NEVER trust this type of government statistic. How did they get the count? What constitutes medical treatment (band aid, tourniquet) What constitutes table saw injury (stubbed toe on stand, dropped blade on bare foot, electrocuted when saw not grounded, stabbed by kickback, sawdust in eye)

Personally, I believe in freedom of competition. If people want safer saws, they will get them with no help needed by some lame ass socialist government hack.

[Jack]

Amen brother.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Chop saw can though.

Massachusetts worker killed after saw hits him in throat AP,

November 21, 2016 DUXBURY, Mass. (AP) ? Authorities have identified a construction worker who was killed in Massachusetts when a power saw he was using kicked back and hit him in the throat.

The Plymouth County District Attorney?s Office says 28-year-old Jason Sanderson, of Carver, and another worker had been excavating an underground water line in a trench when the incident happened Saturday afternoon in Duxbury.

Investigators say they believe the chop saw he was using ?became bound? and jolted back at him, making contact with his neck.

Sanderson was pronounced dead at a hospital. Authorities say foul play is not suspected.

[J. Clarke]

I'm having trouble picturing the geometry there. Unless something broke. Or "chop saw" means something other than what I think it means.

[Leon]

Probably something like this.

Typically "chop saws" are not used for cutting wood.

[Ed Pawlowski]

We know that but most new reporters don't. Anything that cuts they call a chop saw it seems. It sounds like the saw, not material being cut kicked back so it could be saw like you show here.

Most any tool can kill you if improperly used or unusual circumstances.

[krw]

That's the whole point. It's government's job to protect you because "we" know you're an idiot who can't take care of himself. Just send us all your money and "we" will make sure you have enough bubble wrap for life.

[Scott Lurndal]

We had a big Minneapolis Moline (unknown model, hand clutch) for most row-crop work (and pulling the haybaler) with the Farmall B as a utility tractor. The threshing rig was shared between my Grandfather and one of the neighbors who had a Farmall M, H and super-C. We used the "M" to run the threshing machine.

Other side of the family was all Massey Harris/Ferguson (modern AGco) and a Ford 8N.

The summer job in our area was mostly detassling corn(maize) in the 70's.