Windows is weird.

The reality with any tech, even with cars, is that that isnt feasible.

Of course its necessary when new stuff which is useful becomes possible. Only a fool keeps using map books when decent navigation systems become available and you ever go anywhere you havent been before.

No different from most folks then...

In which case, unplug from the internet, and carry on as you are.

If you want to stay connected, then your goal is unrealistic if you also wish to remain secure from external threats that you don't control.

Back in the real world...

Or you could write out the phone book in number order to make the job of identifying incoming CLIs easy :-)

A sheet of paper works well, but let's play devil's advocate for a moment.

(in the context of these COVID times)

So with the smartphone I can wander round Waitrose taking things from my list on the phone, and have the phone scan the barcode on the product as it goes in the trolley. When I get to the checkout, I don't need to handle the goods onto the belt, or do anything other than pay the bill (from my phone natch). So significantly quicker, and far less interaction with the cashier, no need to contact high touch surfaces around the checkout.

(Also I can use a spoken instruction to add items to the shopping list that I remember while I am driving there)

Indeed, however there have been big advances made in getting round the inherent limitations of interacting with pocket sized devices over thee years.

First with T9, then Predictive text, glide/slide typing, voice recognition, AI responses etc.

While a phone or tablet is not a patch on a proper keyboard, decent office chair, and my pair of 27" monitors, the modern incarnations are massively preferable to the multi key press text entry on my first mobile...

Bullshit.

Much better to have the phone decide if it a spam call, someone you have blocked etc etc etc.

Much better to have the phone do that auto and not even ring.

But that doesn?t work when you are out and about and need to be able to take the call because someone else in the house wants you to get something extra while you are out or the alarm system needs to tell you that some scrote is breaking into your house or a delivery monkey is trying to deliver something.

Much more convenient to have the shopping list on the phone and have it auto updated as you buy it.

But anyone with even half a clue has the phone with them anyway so they don?t miss urgent calls.

Bullshit. In spades with the contacts.

Didn't take me long to get used to Win10 - and I'm a lot older than when I changed from XP to Win7.

What did annoy was how much effort needed to get one Win10 machine to talk to another on the same LAN. And still not totally resolved. MS seem to think it's better security - but my ancient RISC OS machine has no trouble doing it with any of them. All I simply want is simple file sharing - all the user files being accessible to other machines.

And you cant have the phone tell you who has it in stock so you can shop there instead of somewhere else which doesn't have stock.

But is useless when you are out.

You don?t need one with any decent smartphone.

But it?s a lot more convenient to say Alexa, coffee beans.

And with a smartphone it will tell you what you need to buy when you enter the supermarket and even tell you which supermarket has stock of your preferred beans etc when you are driving out of your driveway.

Dinosaur.

As Eccles said: "I've got the time written down on this piece of paper"

Typically thoughtless and stupid remark

Satnav doesnt tell you where you want to go, only how to get there. A map does both.

The only good use for a SatNav is when navigating an unfamiliar city: put in a postcode and it gets you there, not necessarily the best route, but better than none.

Our car SatNav is rather dopey - choose 'short' rather than 'fast' and it'll have you going down cart tracks and single lane roads that the council really ought to have closed years ago. It's not flexible enough that one can say, 'choose fast until here and short thereafter'. It *still* doesn't know about the new Runcorn Bridge.

No, generally, for a route to somewhere we've not been to before, or recently, we'll use the map books. SWMBO is a whizz at mapreading. Once we get to the outskirts we start following what the SatNav has to say.

We're stuck with this satnav until we get another car.

I had a fully functional satnav in the last two cars I never even switched on. My phone does FAR better

If I know exactly where I want to ho, the satnav is it. If I want to look for nice places to go, I use a map and/or google maps

So I can wander around Tesco with the scanner they provide, and scan each item as I take it. And see the discounts totting up as I go. At the end I don't need to unload the trolley or have any interaction with the checkout staff. Just scan the code on the checkout, which transfers my shopping to their machine and it then charges me, which I do with a card. Simples.

From time to time they do a security check, which involves their person scanning a random number of items in the trolley to ensure I've paid for them. Or maybe I need assistance because we've bought something with a security tag.

Yes, that's the other thing. I use Google maps too (the paper maps stay in the car) but only on the desktop, as a phone is far too small to do anything useful on.

I usually also StreetView the destination so I'll recognise it or see any quirks in the road layout.

See, this is the point: pick and choose the technology that it makes sense to use. Not just swallow it all "because it's there".

We'll see...

A smartphone does both, and is always up to date.

No, it's as up to date as the vendor can be arsed. Our car SatNav is not up to date, despite being updated (supposedly) when the car is serviced.

The best smartphone apps do much more than that, like search for what you need and get routed to the closest that can supply that in the city you are familiar with.

It is with the best apps which allow for traffic and accidents etc.

And vastly better than a map book.

So use a smartphone app which does.

More fool you.

Makes more sense to use a smartphone app.

Only because you are too stupid to use the smartphone.

Google earth on the smartphone or car screen leaves it for dead.

That?s why those with a clue get a car with apple carplay or the android equivalent, for the full size screen.

You don?t need to do that with the best smartphone apps.

But you are too stupid to do that.

Use it because its better.