Windows is weird.

It isnt complexity for its own sake, it?s a better approach with phone numbers and shopping lists. With phone numbers a decent smartphone tells you who is calling so you can decide if you want to answer it or let it go to voicemail etc and its on the phone you call with.

They have enough of a clue to realise that it works better.

Nothing stupid about them, dinosaur.

Which is a lot more convenient than farting around with a piece of paper and a biro and losing that.

Because you are too stupid to even be able to answer a call on you mobile phone or use a modern microwave.

Much more convenient to use a decent smartphone.

You should be using a map book, dinosaur.

Because you are too stupid to even be able to answer a call on you mobile phone or use a modern microwave.

But nearly everyone you see with a smartphone of some sort is doing exactly that - inputting text. :-)

No. I'm just someone who wants their computer to be as invisible and unobtrusive as possible and not get between me and what I'm trying to do.

And a key part of that is that I don't want any change - however minor - which affects the procedures which have become second-nature.

The fact that new ways of doing things can be learned is completely beside the point. It shouldn't be necessary.

I rather thought that the point about software/hardware development was somewhat off target. :-)

I felt much the same as you when I was using Windows 2000 and much of the rest of the world was on Windows XP . (Or, heaven forfend, W98SE!) And some moving on to Vista.

However, I did move on and now prefer W10 as something I just use. And having gone back and forth across most Windows releases, I find the current W10 as easy and pleasant as any. There are user interface issues I don't care for but that has always been the case.

The security issues alone would be sufficient to convince me to stick with W10.

Windows 2000 did have some nice features.

For one, the System Read cache really worked. Many things will not use the read cache today, spoiling the awesome benefit it used to offer.

If you did an HDTune benchmark, Windows 2000 offered minimal interference with your work. You got a nice smooth graph. Unlike the OSes of today. I've watched snotty Windows 10 start a background maintenance task, as soon as it senses a benchmark has begun :-/

The best way to quiet down Windows 10, is to unplug the network cable, then reboot. When it's denied oxygen, it behaves a bit better. On my laptop, the power consumption drops by half, when the network cable is pulled and Windows 10 is running (that's when the machine should really be idle).

Paul

While those are perfectly respectable objectives for you, they are rather difficult to deliver when different people (a) want to do different things and (b) start with different learnt procedures.

And I'm not clear where you would have wanted change to stop. I used at home or at work Windows 2.0, 3.1, 3.11, NT3.5, 95, NT4, 2000, XP, Vista,

It is complexity for its own sake. If I want to know who is on the other end I ask,. If they won't tell me, I put the phone down. I could get CLI on an analogue phone if needs be

I haven't fund anything better to carry round a supermarket than a sheet of paper, stuffed into a pocket, Takes up so much less space than a smart phone, its just BETTER...

Do you search out things you're never or very rarely going to use just to moan about?

No OS is perfect. I'm quite sure someone could find plenty to complain about on your favourite if they set out to.

I've been using Win10 a few months now. Of course I didn't like it as much as Win7 initially - as I was used to that. But then I didn't like Win7 as much as XP either. You simply get used to it. Same as you do with a new anything.

Of course some are very quick at using a touch screen for text. What they were brought up on. I'm not. ;-)

That is going to be a problem with any new OS. You must have found that out in the past?

but you can't ask management for a substitute, if what she's ordered is out of stock.

I got rid of *her*, in order not to die.

Bloody expensive but worth every penny. I am alone and in reasonable health despite all the 'issues' the doctors found.

Anyway she was going deaf as a post and couldn't hold down a phone conversation as she refused to wear hearing aids

It's 14 years since we were on holiday in Russia. On a tour of one town, which were told was the home of Russian watchmaking, one of our tour party grabbed our guide by the wrist and said "but you're not wearing a watch" To which our guide replied in perfect English "I'm a modern girl, I use my mobile." Times change.

Yes it is.

My BT landline phone does that. And I can access its recorded phone messages directly without needing to enter YET ANOTHER F****NG PASSWORD.

Neither get lost, they are attached to the fridge door, within two steps of all the storage cupboards. So what is needed (something to write with and on) is right there with no need to look for them and no need to look at an email - which is upstairs on the desktop, not on an insecure device like a smartphone.

Simples.

On a device which is suboptimal for the task.

The security issues alone would be enough to put me off ANY version of Windows.

No, they hit me in the face whenever I sit down in front of a Windows box.

I'm sure I could, too :-)

Win7 is much nicer than XP. That's clear the moment you sit down, and even better once you've told it to give over with all the flashy blinky stuff.

Sure you can. Phone 'em up, using your clam-shell phone that's lighter than any smartphone and more likely to have some volts in it.

Some time back, some sage spoke about two classes of equipment use.

That is - equipment to "create", or - equipment to "consume".

Desktops/Laptops for creation (of whatever), and Tablets, Smart boxes for consuming (media mostly).

The "wibbling" class is netbooks and mobile devices - they have needs for inputting text to do that, but not much else.

If I wanna watch media, I'd much rather choose a TV than a tablet.

However some households are rather different, media organisations have chosen their victims with better precision than through the family TV.