Has anyone taken the plunge and installed this yet ?.
What does it do that we don't get now ?.
It's the inevitable unexpected interaction with other applications like Kaspersky, Firefox, T'bird etc that I am concerned about.
Andrew
Both my machines updated to it fairly quickly this time, usually one or the other gets delayed
Nothing earth-shattering, WSL2 if that floats your boat?
I don't remember Win10 upgrades dicking about with FF/TB, it used to silently uninstall some minor apps it didn't like such as CPU-Z
Improvements to search.
New tweaks to windows sandbox.
Improved memory management for users of Windows Subsystem For Linux.
You can now configure how windows restarts apps after a reboot.
Here is the currently known list of problems:
which of the searches that I don't use would that be?
Can't say that I have ever used a Windows sandbox
Nor Linux
No doubt hidden away on a third level menu so that I'll not find it. Even if I did think that I might need it
Personally I never knowingly restart apps after a reboot
so it gives me, apparently nothing ...
... has a list of problems yet I'm still forced to have it?
tim
If you fight hard they might not make you upgrade to 2004 for 2 years
Search me?
Worth investigating if you ever need to run something that you are not
100% sure about.
Sometimes handy for those occasions where you think "this would be easy in a *nix style shell..."
Its still under the "Sign in Options" part of Accounts in Settings.
That seems at best unlikely!
The apps themselves can register as "restartable". That means that windows can elect to restart them when you reboot or logout and back in again. So things like email apps or web browsing sessions can restart at the point they were left.
This capability used to be hidden away a bit more
So ask for a refund...
What you are currently using has a much longer list of problems, that's software for you!
Still its not a forced download yet.
Like
One reason I'm not even using 10 on my main machine. Is this the one with the new Edge and the ability to use Narrator for far more things. I think its also the one that allows cultana to be removed and replaced by Beeb, oh no I hear you cry!
Brian
Is it the one with Linux built in? Tell me if they can build in Linux why not build in windows xp and 7 as well? Brian
Does it still trash programs that work in my windows 7 but do not or need reinstalling every time 10 updates such as old versions of office, Outlook Express and my Newsbridge software? Brian
Well, you can enable it
It's just a hypervisor (ok the linux integration is a bit cleverer than that) you can run either 7 or xp in a VM if you want, and have the memory for it.
You can run XP or 7 on Win 10 if you want. Either use the built in HyperV subsystem or download something like VirtualBox from Oracle.
Office back to 2007 and newer is fine, Not tried 2000 or 2003 since they have issues running on most NT class machines (i.e. Win2k onwards) including Win 7. If you don't mind toting DLL about manually then it can be forced to work.
OE has not been supported without some titting about since 7 (possibly even Vista!)
Where will the security updates for Win7 and WinXP come from ?
Windows 7 had "WinXP Mode", which was an attempt at what you suggest. It is not a licensed technology or operating mode for any other combination of Host/Guest OSes. Windows 7 was the host, and ran Windows Virtual PC (download) to run WinXP Mode (a download as well). It used at most, one CPU core for Windows XP operation.
Windows 10 does not do WinXP Mode, neither does it accept VPC2007 or Windows Virtual PC as hosting softwares. Only Hyper-V is offered, and it only works on PCs with SLAT/EPT support. I have just one machine that will run Hyper-V, and I use VirtualBox instead.
Some recent version of VirtualBox, has been redesigned to operate as a Hyper-V client, making it look like Microsoft Hyper-V and Oracle VirtualBox are "living in harmony". Microsoft needs them to do this, so Microsoft future will be "full of containers" in terms of implementations. And the users machine will run slower and slower as time passes (for some value of "that is progress for you").
Paul
There are tables here, of some sort of compatibility. The tables don't build a lot of confidence though. And I think this is a reflection of the size and difficulty of testing it all properly.
Outlook and Outlook Express are two different products, the latter being tied to Internet Explorer. That's why OE (discontinued on newer OSes), isn't particularly inclined to do anything when transplanted from WinXP. There are probably workarounds. Generally, you'd look at Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail, if seeking to avoid the default Mail provided with your current OS.
For mail, you want products that don't corrupt their database files.
On Windows 10, there is the Mail App, but... why ? That's something I couldn't figure out. I've been testing that with a mail server loaded right into the OS, so that there's no need for accounts anywhere else that it can scrape.
Paul
Indeed, very much so!
Yup I have certainly got it working on Vista for someone. I think when they went to 7 I persuaded them it was time to switch to TB.
:-)
That used to be the domain of Outlook proper at one stage, there was a whole ecosystem of tools for gluing it back together.
For people who like pretty, and low on functionality?
(<Cough>iPhone users<Cough>)
yes, I know why I might need it
but things like email and we browsing are always shut doe by the systems
I personally find visible apps reopening themselves at start up annoying
Hum
are you suggesting W10 is "free"?
Isn't it
One of the benefits of XP is that the Micro$oft developers are no longer writing new bugs for it.
They are - but the OS may choose to start them again at next login.
Not much of a fan of it myself.
I was suggesting you might get back what you paid for the update :-)
No, they are phasing it in a few groups at a time. If you manually go select "Check for Updates" - they you are classed as a "seeker" and will likely get it offered sooner than people who just leave it to its own devices. However, even then you may not get it offered just yet.
On one of my systems, I get
"The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way. We?re offering this update to compatible devices, but your device isn?t quite ready for it. Once your device is ready, you?ll see the update available on this page. There?s nothing you need to do at this time."
There will no doubt come a time its a recommended update for joe public.
SMB is "the thorn in the side" on that one. That spoils the fun (like, Linux turning off SMBV1 by default and requiring some small effort to put it back so WinXP shares work). I need SMB so that all these OSes can communicate, without USB sticks and sneakernet.
Paul
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