Tried to order something from Europe..

We probably never will.

People die - old people die - from pneumonia a lot.

Art students and other binary thinkers will decide that if they had covid 19 in their blood that means they either did, or didn't die from that.

intelligent people realise its not that simple and really the only thing that is meaningful is excess death rate, and even that is arguable on account of the lack of hospital care being afforded to other potentially lethal conditions.

But that's all to hard for little Lefty Brains to come to terms with - they want clear simple 'two legs bad four legs good' notions to rule what passes for a brain

Or at the top. It depends what metric...

and what makes you think it will be in any way other than courteously?

Frankly, I don't give a toss if Scotland wants to leave

It's a money pit that get's more than its fair share of government spending (admittedly for reasonable socially responsible reasons)

If it wants to walk away from that, more fool it IMHO

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 08:15:31 -0000, "tim..." snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote: <snip>

Quite and no one is saying you should, when the options support overtaking whilst maintaining social distancing etc, but when they lean over your shoulder to get what they want while you are getting stuff yourself, then they becomes an issue.

This is what I was saying about people not understanding or caring (about themselves, their family members or anyone else).

The odd few times I've been in shops since lockdown (generally only big / open places and when they were quiet) it's like being Pacman, choosing routes that avoid the Pandemic Enthusiasts whilst still getting what I need and getting out alive.

Cheers, T i m

So you do that by using the verbal equivalent of a baseball bat round the head? Very grown up.

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Have you seen the bile handed out round here? Not much courtesy shown.

Its not bile. Its reason

If Scotland wants to leave, good luck, BUT their bile against the English must stop and they must take full economic responsibility even when it results in a 50% drop in living standards and people dying on the streets. England would be under no obligation:

- to subsidise their windmills

- to subsidise their welfare

- to underwrite or guarantee their currency

- to protect their banks from total failure

- to give them access to capital at preferential rates

- to guarantee free movement of their citizens in and out of the rest of the UK

- to allow them to work in the UK unless they complied with the 'rest of the world' immigration requirements

- to allow them access to the NHS

- to pay them social security or pensions

The problem is that this is simply not being faced up to by the SNP. who are simply lying to them.

All well and good you may say, but at some point the truth needs to be told

Scotland is a pissy little county of 5 million that is smaller in importance than London or Manchester and Birmingham together.Its less than 8% of UK population and is overall parasitic on the rest of the UK

Its got f*ck all natural resources, a bolshy population, a s***ty government that couldn't run a car boot sale and a massive drug problem.

If it were an island in the Atlantic we would have encouraged it to f*ck off years ago. The problem is it has a land border to England, and unless that was made a very hard border indeed, it would export its dross to England just as Mexico does to the USA.

The cost benefit analysis that needs to be applied is a Boris Bus one. "Why don't we take the £3.5bn we send to Scotland every year and spend it on sentry guns for Hadrian's wall instead?"

All te carp that et EU threatened would happen to the UK but didnt. WILL happen to scotland

silly snoflake. Yes. a baseball hat around the head is about the only thing your average SNP supporter understands

Good ol' bert. Can always be relied on to talk s**te.

Good ol' Timmy. Defending his party to the bitter end. Perhaps if one of the 120,000 was close to him, he might not be so happy. But I doubt it.

That, and not clamping down hard when it became obvious there was going to be a second peak, and towards the winter, when it would hit harder. Sensible measures then could have save getting on for half the total deaths - and not put the NHS under such strain again, with all the knock ons from that.

I totally agree. Time the SE of England was independent, given it subsidises the rest of the country. Could rename it Monaco on Thames.

Another one whooshed (not difficult with burk / Spuke / Turnip).

'Nothing in writing about the EU monies going to the NHS instead, but writ large on the side of a bus. You either accept that it was a lie or that is was disingenuous to make such a bogus statement on the side of a bus.

So, it's 'politics' and 'they all lie', then at least that is an acceptance of the farce of the whole so call 'democracy' where whoever can make the most outrageous but believable (by enough the great unwashed) statement, 'wins'.

There was no real remain campaign because 'remaining' is what we were already doing so few saw a need to campaign / vote for it.

You have no idea what a minority of the population of the UK have dragged the rest into yet. All you know is you have taken away our voice when it comes to one of our biggest trading partners

It's pretty sad that the best we can hope for is that leaving the EU doesn't make things worse.

Cheers, T i m

imposing a quarantine is not the same as saying "you're not allowed off the ship at all "

is it

This is where Turnip has difficulty differentiating what he thinks with fact, as is the way with left brainers. Because he's on his own, he doesn't have anyone to pull him back from his more extreme behaviour, hence we see what we see.

He's not passionate because he's protecting anyone else, he's arrogant and opinionated *because* he has little compassion or empathy.

Cheers, T i m

biliously expressed!

You seem to conflate things - I was making a third person comment on the way you express yourself which reflects on your personality.

As I said before you are really not a very nice person, and have simply confirmed it.

but that's not the same meaning, is it

the "normal" quarantine (for Covid) is for 10/14 days and you can't leave before then

whereas being told to remain on the ship means that you can leave when the ship leaves, even if that's only 2 days later

As long as you are going with the ship, what's the problem there?