Tried to order something from Europe..

On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:40:27 -0000, "tim..." snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote: <snip>

Because in some cases the 'bigger picture' means (meant) that they were getting the optimal solution from the UK. Product (design, reliability, documentation, support, historic, price and *delivery*) but it only takes a hit to *one of them* to relegate it to non-optimal and they go elsewhere (and never come back).

Re 'historic, there is likely to be some 'No one got fired buying IBM' ... till they buy 'Next best option' and find it's actually 'better'.

It's far easier to keep a customer / supplier than it is to find new ones.

Cheers, T i m

That isn't what happened in Wuhan and Hubei.

But no one was thrown in the slammer.

A few had their front door quite literally welded shut which works quite well when everyone has barred windows.

The reality is that the chinese are much more obedient except in HongKong.

That?s not true of Wuhan and Hubei.

So just to be clear. You're saying NZ contained Covid by stopping all imports and exports, including food etc?

Or are you simply following the BoJo line? Anything to excuse the near highest death rate in the world is valid.

Are you actually saying they don't have large cities? That is where it spread the quickest. Not in rural areas.

It isn't the highest death rate in the world.

No. He actually said: >> The small population in a similar land area is what is the major >> advantage.

HTH

Of course it doesn't because you are missing *the point* .;-(

Just because there is a smaller population overall (per surface area) doesn't mean the population density (= Covid transmission risk) isn't very similar to a country with a larger or smaller general population or landmass.

Even if there was a lot of spare space between the cities, the chances are people aren't going to move out of the cities, even temporarily (and often can't because of movement restrictions).

Irrespective of the living densities, the people still often need to go shopping and because of the distances / high densities, can't get home deliveries.

HTH.

Cheers, T i m

They are quite keen to get back on board with a trade deal.

In article snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> writes

Not exactly a world travel and business hub, New Zealand, is it?

In my experience yo have the two extremes there. Waitrose quite conscientious, Morrisons hopeless.

In article snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> writes

Have you not noticed. For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert. Most of them are merely mathematical modellers.

In article snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, Fred snipped-for-privacy@hotnail.com writes

In China if they say stay indoors, you stay indoors.

We've mainly been shopping online for delivery or click and collect (as my wife is shielding). On Saturday night my wife went to add something to the Sunday delivery order and found that Sainsburys had cancelled it, with no communication to her! She banged an order in quick (she only had

What is so hard about wearing a mask properly; getting what you, as quickly as possible; queuing according to the floor markings; and then getting out.

I don't know about that, but surely cross-channel, North Sea and Irish Sea ferries could have transported trailers without the tractor units and drivers (they have been doing that for decades and although loading/unloading would be a little slower, traffic is way down anyway).

Crew do not need to leave the ferry or mix with anyone at one side of the crossing. Therefore (other than essential workers or medical emergencies) far fewer (none?) would have needed to pass from one country to another across the sea.

Freight ship crews could similarly remain isolated onboard, except in their home port and (as has been happening in some places) airline crews could be kept in isolation before their return flights.

Maybe our government looked at at, but has never been presented as an option.

Loads. To do and keep doing that you have to both consider others and understand the rules / reasons / processes and few do, well, till they or someone close to them catches / dies of it ... then they at least realise what they should have been doing all along (possibly).

As always it's a selfish / ignorant minority who spoil it for everyone else (like those flying into Heathrow then getting the train into Scotland to avoid being locked down, putting all of us at risk).

Cheers, T i m

Ten days ago, I was in the Westfield White City complex. Quite permissable

- that's where my dentist is. I used the car park. There seem to be be people about who can't read the one-way signs and others who weren't wearing masks - you are not allowed in if you aren't. I wonder if it will be any better on Friday when I go back?

No, if anyone did, the UK 'declared war' on Europe with the Brexit vote.

They speak English, they know the lies of £350 milllion saved for the NHS , straight bananas etc that Boris and co have been spreading for years.

No, they dont want more chaos in the EU with more countries leaving, Brexit has cost them money and lost trade too, but not as much as its costing the UK

Oh is this a lie? Do tell me in what way. I'm keen to know.

Whether countries leave or not is not a matter for the EU, it's a matter for the country concerned. More particularly, for its population. This is obviously the case since it's wired into the Lisbon Treaty. But I don't recall there being any text there that the EU reserved the right to sulk about it, or could veto countries which chose to leave, or treat them in a s***ty childish way. If you disagree, feel free to point me at the relevant text.