SOT: New Outlook

Only on other people's computers!

It wasn't impressive (at least not for the right reasons).

Where was that? Insulting people is SOP here.

And see my sig, which happens to be apposite.

It's a waste of time trying to move a window by grabbing the title bar, these days. The title bar is so full of Search and assorted buttons that there's no free space left to grab it by. Which lunatic thought this was a good idea?

Even Apple is falling prey to this garbage now.

Well the main benefit for me was that it does not say "Item Has Been Changed" when I tried to archive an item in an IMAP folder. However the other negative features, so lack of control over message format, the inability to quote in-line plus a few others made me ditch it for Thunderbird.

and will I ultimately be required to

I believe you still have time...

I would say its more a Windows/8 situation, so worse. I wouldn't say "crap" , just horrid...

Dave

Nah, the entire US nation knew it was crap. The only reasonable explanation is that Vista was the Windows 7 beta test, and MS released it as a finished product due to financial pressures.

No OS which runs with zero free RAM because it has pre-loaded applications you used at this time last week and might want to use again this week, can be considered a serious product.

It's not possible to insult Microsoft or Bill Gates.

I have had to unpick its installation a few times where people have clicked the "try new outlook" slider at the top of the screen in "classic" outlook, and then found it does not work with their CRM system (that has a rather "blunt force" way of sending email[1]), or were home users and it could no cope with all their accounts or account types.

Last time I looked there was no way to do any advanced setup, or even see what setup it had guessed at.

In the real outlook client, you can suppress the invitation by settings registry key like:

reg add "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Outlook\Options\General" /v HideNewOutlookToggle /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

Benefits? To you or MS? Basically it is just wrapper round a web app to make it feel a bit like a native application

It will likely install itself, the trick is stopping the thing :-)

If you are a user of the bundled enfeebled windows "mail" and "Calendar" apps that come installed with Win 10 or later, then the plan is those will retired and replaced with "(new) Outlook"

If you have the full outlook application (either rented as part of a 365 sub or rented for a bit longer by "buying" Office 2024 etc at retail), then you can carry on with the full fat version.

Well vista was crap (although was not quite so crap after a couple of service packs). A for insulting the US, probably better not, they have enough problems... just look at who they elected :-)

Linux MATE is glpriously old fashioned

I think that Windows has been perfectly usable since Win 7/8.1 (with Open Shell) so all MSFT has done since then is to pretty it up so it can be seen to be "improving" it. I think W2K in a 64 bit edition would suit me fine!

Win-7 64-bit was good enough (not that I'm a Windows user, except when obliged to be).

Pretty it up? Pretty it up? Added bling is more like it <jumps up and down with rage>.

Yesterday I had to re-create my Win-10 VM that I use for software testing, as it decided it was bored with just booting up, and felt like crashing instead. I spent a fair time turning off as much of the bling as I could, still some left to do. Once that's done there will be some residual noise but I can live with that.

You did nothing wrong. Vista was crap because Microsoft downgraded the memory requirements from

As in my reply to the OP

Vista was crap because Microsoft downgraded the memory requirements from