So we'll have to buy industrial vacuum cleaners

Nov 04, 2013 37 Replies

The f****ng common market has decreed that we won't be allowed to buy vacs above 900W. That's ridiculous. Vacs need to be at least 2kW to do any good. Why have we given away our sovereignty to foreigners? We've filled the country with the world's riff-raff, who are now breeding like flies, and we allow Brussels to dictate every damn thing to us. Gad damn it.



Bill


Why can't the UK tell them to F off?

'cos Maggie is no longer with us - she wouldn't have stood for it like our current bunch of drips.

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Safely buried, thankfully.

It's perfectly attainable, they just mandate it and the member states fall in line and impliment it.

As the article points ,out silly things like facts about overall performance are not properly being addressed in the ratings scale. Any one with half a brain cell knows that a 900 W vac won't work as well, so the chances are it will have to be used for twice as long as a currently normal 1,800 W(*) one thus *not making any* energy savings at all. More half arsed bollocks from the Greenies.

(*) Well that's what the article says, seems a bit high to me. Our DC04 is 1100 W and the Earlex Wet 'n Dry about the same.

Much like the water saving toilets that have to be flushed 2 or 3 times, thereby using *more* water than a standard one.

Yes but thick carpets? Very slow.

Bill

... until you move house, or want to vacuum out the car, or a shed or ...

I use an upright for that. Nothing like 2 kW.

The two we have are both > 10 years old. Both are working well and I see no need to replace either.

Aye, the Earlex has had a good work out today, about 3 hours non stop, filtering the air in the room I'm sanding the wood work in then collecting the fallout.

The domestic will get maybe two hours of use every so often but nothing like once a week. Dropping down to 900 W from 1100 probably won't save even a unit/month. This really hasn't been thought through has it?

They ought to be targeting the machines used by the office cleaners who hoover floor after floor of office blocks every morning.

And the lighting in those blocks which appears to be on 24/7

You're right. It would be. Which is why nobody's suggesting that.

So you're saying it'll still be perfectly within the law to buy a 1400w vac from a shop?

NT

And break down more often, costing more to repair...

The Chinese whispers are working well today...

See if you can spot the difference between the two...

But it will be a criminal offence to *sell* one. The EU Regulations on vacs apply the "market surveillance provisions" (in Directive

2009/125/EC) which can lead to prosecutions and fines (under The Ecodesign for Energy-Related Products Regulationsin the UK) for manufacturers and suppliers who don't comply with the all the performance/testing/labelling provisions.

On top of that I don't think anyone's yet mentioned all the additional costs of manufacturer's gaving to test their machines and governments having to then procure and test a sample as part of the the "market surveillance checks". All makes it that bit more expensive (=harder) for anyone to come up with a new,better design for a vac and get it to the market: another example of the unintended consequences.

You forget one small detail - it's been a criminal offence to sell an unapproved, untested, un-CE-marked electrical product of any kind anywhere in the EEA (yes, the EEA - not the EU, so non-EU-member countries are affected, too) for the last twenty years.

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"Which" Magazine doesn't understand anything.

Interesting, thank you.

Really? You astonish me. A while ago I saw one of their comparative camera reviews, and about one camera they had commented: "Takes great pictures". I considered this to be incisive, witty, economical with words, and technically complete. What other information did I need?

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