SDS drill for general DIY?

Even my DeWalt 566 does that a bit. Nowhere near as much as the PPro one which rotates loosely but I often have to engage rotation and cycle it back to where I want it.

No - he's been typing replies as fast as he can read :-)

`My Wickes (Kress) SDS drill works perfectly. I bought it ont he basis of recommendations here and I have no complaints.

I used an SDS on 6 inch screws. The screws were in a floor, so no problem holding the drill. The low speed and torque ensures the screw is well screwed in.

Makita make one for the same price available from Screwfix. Makita are a far better bet than a Black &Decker, as that is all a DeWalt is.

Mr Pole, are you Grunff? Was it your motor? How do you know?

No, you use it because it feels and works so much better. You obviously have no experiance of using decent tools.

No you use it because it cost a fortune to buy.

No, you obviously haven't been following the story. I bought the Makita because I use my cordless drill *a lot*, and they kept failing or performing unsatisfactorily. Remember, you receommended I try the 18V PPPoo, which I did and found to be s*it.

Yes.

That isn't a realistic comparison. The B&D brand is applied to entry level DIY tools. DeWalt is applied to professional ones. Bosch do the same thing with their green and blue ranges.

.andy

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I also said try the Riyobi and the Wickes (Kress), which you never.

How many times am I supposed to try what you suggest? You suggested the PPPoo first, I tried it, it was s*it. Am I supposed to then continue following your suggestions? Please!

I'm *extremely* happy with the Makita. Yes, it cost twice as much as the PPPoo or the Bosch (green), but it's far more than twice the tool. Use one and you'll understand.

There's no need. The Riyobi 18v cordless came bottom of the bunch on both performance and value for money in a review that I was reading yesterday.

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Oh dear - I think I am agreement with IMM on something.... never mind I am sure it will pass.

Yup the SDS will do the job just fine. Especially on big screws driven downwards. The main difficulty is not the weight (The 2kg SDS it is about the same as the 18V Makita cordless), but the balance and the distance to the tip of the driver. When you want to be able to place the screw driver bit into the head of a screw it is much simpler when the handle of the drill is under its centre of gravity (as with the cordless) and the end is only 5" away from the handle you are holding. With the SDS the bit is over 12" away from the handle. Hence the process of aligning driver with screw is far more difficult and also more tiring if you are using it for lots of screws since you are holding it right at the back. Also SDS drills lack the sophistication in their torque limiters that you get with the cordless.

I think your maths is a bit out. More like the Makita cost five times as much as the PPoo but is five times the tool.

( Would love to get the Makita sliding mitre saw but it's just too expensive for my woodworking needs )

BTW, what is the extra P for in PPPoo, assuming first is for Performance (sic) and the last for Pro/Poo ?

Ok, a little off, but not 5x - the Makita 8443 cost £280, including 3x

Same here, stuck with a NuTool for now. Works well but is inacurate and very noisy. Fitting a decent blade helped a lot.

I assume you're aware of the two ranges - the Performance Power (PP, pronounced "PeePee"), and the Performance Power Pro (pronounced "PeePeePoo"). The former are "really, really crap", while the latter are the professional version, so merely "really crap".

The 18V combi I tried was a top of the range one from the PPPoo range.